This is the "shift to Windows 95" moment, when Apple's elegant but higher priced phone/tablet offerings start to become marginalized by a competitor who is ever faster, more nimble, cheaper, and more frantic in its offerings.
Big screen, small screen, glasses, watch, e-paper: Samsung and Android will win it all.
I've never owned a PC in my life. I've had iPhones since the first one. I have stuck with APPL.
But the reality distortion is gone, and I see Samsung/Android/Google not only taking over but driving Apple to extinction like a slowly evolving dinosaur that struggles to come up with a 5s while the competish has mutated randomly with blinding speed and variety to become top predator.
Ugh. Selling APPL tomorrow (unless some wiser person convinces me otherwise lol).
Changed flavor; you're still a kool-aid drinker. Absolutely no original thought.
Its ok for SJ to openly claim that they shamelessly steal ideas from others but when Google allegedly stole ideas to create android, its unfair all of a sudden? Or if Samsung uses ideas from Apple that's also unacceptable?
If you read the original WSJ piece, it's pretty obvious Schiller was mugged by these "journalists." There will be some repercussions. It was not an interview, it was a hit piece.
Its ok for SJ to openly claim that they shamelessly steal ideas from others but when Google allegedly stole ideas to create android, its unfair all of a sudden? Or if Samsung uses ideas from Apple that's also unacceptable?
Let me help you out, Mars.
From the dictionary:
Or did you really think Steve Jobs admitted theft in a public documentary AND never got investigated or prosecuted?
Its ok for SJ to openly claim that they shamelessly steal ideas from others but when Google allegedly stole ideas to create android, its unfair all of a sudden? Or if Samsung uses ideas from Apple that's also unacceptable?
Jobs shoots his mouth off in, what, 1995? About an event which happened in 1979. And now it's somehow definitive proof that Apple steals ideas in 2013?
Maybe you should read some of the details about the Xerox PARC visits before you use them as proof of Apple stealing. They also signed a stock agreement with Xerox about the visits, so it's not like they gave nothing in return. Unlike Microsoft did later, and now Google has done by working around having to pay licensing to Sun (now Oracle) in regards to Java.
And how about the multitouch interface which Apple "stole" (purchased FingerWorks)? Again, Apple pays to acquire their "stolen" technology rather than just using it and hoping no one is willing to take it to court.
What proof do you have that android stole from iOS? if Apple was so sure of that, why are they so scared to sue Google instead of crying and whining?
Trouble is, Android isn't actually a product which Google directly profits from. Hence why Apple has been going after the companies which do profit from using it in their products (Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc) rather than Google itself.
That's a lame excuse for Apple not suing Google. Oracle sued Google for using Java in Android even though google doesn't profit from android. Apple knows they have absolutely no chance of beating Google in a court room. That's why they are suing a Korean company in a court 10 miles from their HQ with local Jury. If Android was stolen, SJ would have sued Google way back in 2009. Its crazy everyone on Apple sites claim "Google stole android" yet no one can show any concrete proof.
I think iOS needs some Big New Feature(TM). It sure would make Phil's job easier if he could say something concrete like "Our phone is better than their's because it can ..." (e.g. make your breakfast).
He was too polite in those statements. I had Galaxy 2 Mini as second phone for few months, this was really a crappy experience, I don't want to go in details. I can only say, I was the happiest man in the world when I installed dual SIM module in my 4S.
Arguments like: "I don't need iTunes for Android, I can use >>anything else<< (why then?)", "I can copy music directly to phone" (why bother? where will you put it?), etc... are simply idiotic statements from no-brain boys who just don't get the purpose of such device.
Trouble is, Android isn't actually a product which Google directly profits from. Hence why Apple has been going after the companies which do profit from using it in their products (Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc) rather than Google itself.
Good point! Android is given as free of charge. It is actually a devious plan, I need to give credit to Google for it, although I don't like it.
In a rare interview with The Wall Street Journal, Schiller went over fourth quarter 2012 metrics related to "switchers," or [SIZE=14px]handset users who switched between an iPhone and an Android[/SIZE]. Citing Apple research, the executive said that four times as many iPhone users switched away from Android than to a handset running Google's mobile OS.
Apparently I am so intoxicated with Samsung news I read 'Android' as 'Samsung' - my bad
I've never owned a PC in my life. I've had iPhones since the first one. I have stuck with APPL.
But the reality distortion is gone, and I see Samsung/Android/Google not only taking over but driving Apple to extinction like a slowly evolving dinosaur that struggles to come up with a 5s while the competish has mutated randomly with blinding speed and variety to become top predator.
Ugh. Selling APPL tomorrow (unless some wiser person convinces me otherwise lol).
Indeed, sell that petroleum stock and buy something nice for yourself.
You value the opinion of a marketing guy more than that of the co-founder of Apple simply because he doesn't agree with you?
You value the opinion of a man who had nothing to do with the iMac, the iPod, OSX, the iPhone, the iPad, iOS ... over the opinion of the marketing director who was at least partially responsible for Apple becoming the world's most profitable consumer electronics company, simply because he doesn't agree with you?
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I know, it started out with DaHarder and went downhill from there. That's an accomplishment, downhill from there.
Thanks to igriv, MacRulez, Mars 123 for leading the descent. Good job! See you later this morning after the Samsung dance numbers.
They achieved their aim. But at least they gave us a bit of a laugh.
I find myself constantly shaking my head at the sheer idiocy of their comments, the really sad thing is that they actually believe what they write.
In the past I thought they were simply here to annoy people, but not now, not any more.
They would make many a shrink very rich and very happy.
I can't wait to read their shrill when the samdung g4 comes out shortly, man I can't wait. I want to be educated on how a plastic fantastic piece of junk is the best thing since, we'll since anything and everything.
I never claimed Apple didn't design the Ax processor. Just like apple, Samsung also designs its own Exynos processor and they both use ARM architecture. The difference is Apple is dependent on Samsung to manufacture their chip while Samsung doesn't need Apple for anything except that Samsung needs Apple's R&D because they're unable to come up with anything original by themselves..
I think iOS needs some Big New Feature(TM). It sure would make Phil's job easier if he could say something concrete like "Our phone is better than their's because it can ..." (e.g. make your breakfast).
Wouldn't work.
Apple could release some nice feature that was well-integrated and worked extremely well and provided a world class UI. All the shills would bring up something that was only vaguely related and which was total crap - and claim that Apple simply copied it.
Or they'd resort to their usual spec gams. "Ours has more cores (ignoring the fact that Apple's is still faster and smoother)". "Ours has a bigger screen (ignoring the fact that it's a crappy screen and is so large that it's hard to use as a phone)." "Ours has more megapixels (ignoring the fact that it's got such a cheap, crappy lens that its pictures are far worse than Apple provides)." No one but Apple understands the concept of a well-designed system that works well and provides great user satisfaction - so they're left with the sily spec games.
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Originally Posted by 512ke
I agree, it's just a phone.
But it's moment of the shift.
This is the "shift to Windows 95" moment, when Apple's elegant but higher priced phone/tablet offerings start to become marginalized by a competitor who is ever faster, more nimble, cheaper, and more frantic in its offerings.
Big screen, small screen, glasses, watch, e-paper: Samsung and Android will win it all.
I've never owned a PC in my life. I've had iPhones since the first one. I have stuck with APPL.
But the reality distortion is gone, and I see Samsung/Android/Google not only taking over but driving Apple to extinction like a slowly evolving dinosaur that struggles to come up with a 5s while the competish has mutated randomly with blinding speed and variety to become top predator.
Ugh. Selling APPL tomorrow (unless some wiser person convinces me otherwise lol).
Changed flavor; you're still a kool-aid drinker. Absolutely no original thought.
Its ok for SJ to openly claim that they shamelessly steal ideas from others but when Google allegedly stole ideas to create android, its unfair all of a sudden? Or if Samsung uses ideas from Apple that's also unacceptable?
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Originally Posted by Mars123
Schiller sounds like a whining baby complaining about competition instead of offering a legitimate product from his own company
No, it sounds like he is responding to a question he was asked during an interview.
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Originally Posted by Mars123
Its ok for SJ to openly claim that they shamelessly steal ideas from others but when Google allegedly stole ideas to create android, its unfair all of a sudden? Or if Samsung uses ideas from Apple that's also unacceptable?
Let me help you out, Mars.
From the dictionary:
Or did you really think Steve Jobs admitted theft in a public documentary AND never got investigated or prosecuted?
(And what exactly do you think he stole, anyway?)
What proof do you have that android stole from iOS? if Apple was so sure of that, why are they so scared to sue Google instead of crying and whining?
Originally Posted by Mars123
Its ok for SJ to openly claim that they shamelessly steal ideas from others but when Google allegedly stole ideas to create android, its unfair all of a sudden? Or if Samsung uses ideas from Apple that's also unacceptable?
Jobs shoots his mouth off in, what, 1995? About an event which happened in 1979. And now it's somehow definitive proof that Apple steals ideas in 2013?
Maybe you should read some of the details about the Xerox PARC visits before you use them as proof of Apple stealing. They also signed a stock agreement with Xerox about the visits, so it's not like they gave nothing in return. Unlike Microsoft did later, and now Google has done by working around having to pay licensing to Sun (now Oracle) in regards to Java.
And how about the multitouch interface which Apple "stole" (purchased FingerWorks)? Again, Apple pays to acquire their "stolen" technology rather than just using it and hoping no one is willing to take it to court.
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Originally Posted by Mars123
What proof do you have that android stole from iOS? if Apple was so sure of that, why are they so scared to sue Google instead of crying and whining?
Trouble is, Android isn't actually a product which Google directly profits from. Hence why Apple has been going after the companies which do profit from using it in their products (Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc) rather than Google itself.
That's a lame excuse for Apple not suing Google. Oracle sued Google for using Java in Android even though google doesn't profit from android. Apple knows they have absolutely no chance of beating Google in a court room. That's why they are suing a Korean company in a court 10 miles from their HQ with local Jury. If Android was stolen, SJ would have sued Google way back in 2009. Its crazy everyone on Apple sites claim "Google stole android" yet no one can show any concrete proof.
My head hurts from the insane bullshit and lies from the trolls.
I think iOS needs some Big New Feature(TM). It sure would make Phil's job easier if he could say something concrete like "Our phone is better than their's because it can ..." (e.g. make your breakfast).
Arguments like: "I don't need iTunes for Android, I can use >>anything else<< (why then?)", "I can copy music directly to phone" (why bother? where will you put it?), etc... are simply idiotic statements from no-brain boys who just don't get the purpose of such device.
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Originally Posted by auxio
Trouble is, Android isn't actually a product which Google directly profits from. Hence why Apple has been going after the companies which do profit from using it in their products (Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc) rather than Google itself.
Good point! Android is given as free of charge. It is actually a devious plan, I need to give credit to Google for it, although I don't like it.
Apparently I am so intoxicated with Samsung news I read 'Android' as 'Samsung' - my bad
Indeed, sell that petroleum stock and buy something nice for yourself.
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Originally Posted by GTR
...runs through the middle of this incredible thread war wearing absolutely nothing and waving his pants round and round his head!
Woo hoo!!!!
"Hello, Security? Yeah, could you send someone upstairs? Make sure he's big and make sure he's got a bathrobe or something..."
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Originally Posted by Mars123
You value the opinion of a marketing guy more than that of the co-founder of Apple simply because he doesn't agree with you?
You value the opinion of a man who had nothing to do with the iMac, the iPod, OSX, the iPhone, the iPad, iOS ... over the opinion of the marketing director who was at least partially responsible for Apple becoming the world's most profitable consumer electronics company, simply because he doesn't agree with you?
I know, it started out with DaHarder and went downhill from there. That's an accomplishment, downhill from there.
Thanks to igriv, MacRulez, Mars 123 for leading the descent. Good job! See you later this morning after the Samsung dance numbers.
I find myself constantly shaking my head at the sheer idiocy of their comments, the really sad thing is that they actually believe what they write.
In the past I thought they were simply here to annoy people, but not now, not any more.
They would make many a shrink very rich and very happy.
I can't wait to read their shrill when the samdung g4 comes out shortly, man I can't wait. I want to be educated on how a plastic fantastic piece of junk is the best thing since, we'll since anything and everything.
There. I fixed that for you.
Wouldn't work.
Apple could release some nice feature that was well-integrated and worked extremely well and provided a world class UI. All the shills would bring up something that was only vaguely related and which was total crap - and claim that Apple simply copied it.
Or they'd resort to their usual spec gams. "Ours has more cores (ignoring the fact that Apple's is still faster and smoother)". "Ours has a bigger screen (ignoring the fact that it's a crappy screen and is so large that it's hard to use as a phone)." "Ours has more megapixels (ignoring the fact that it's got such a cheap, crappy lens that its pictures are far worse than Apple provides)." No one but Apple understands the concept of a well-designed system that works well and provides great user satisfaction - so they're left with the sily spec games.