Unfortunately this is the real thing and it looks like crap, I'm not sure what Jony was thinking with those dividing lines on the back, antennae? Waterproofing?
Apple needs to find a new visionary, Mr. Ive is all tapped out and Marc isn't that much different. Touch ID on the iPhone 5S is also flat.
We've been doing aluminum and titanium for over 12 years already, and they all look the same. Even the frik'n $200 ChromeBook looks almost identical to the Air, every other PC monitor already looks like an iMac. How about a new direction in design, new material usage. Jony blossomed when he was a nobody and SJ put him in the spotlight, I feel he has somewhat became complacent.
Furthermore, the new MacPro does look like a trash can. My wife, who knows nothing about computers, saw the MacPro and started laughing 'it looks like a trash can!!!.' Yeah, in an Apple store!
Your opinion is that of a bottom feeder. You are worst kind of critic, and probably a horrible person in reality.
2.Yes I do believe Apple is trying to stay relevant with this new iPhone that as I said should have been the iPhone 5 in 2012, and in spite of this we all going to buy it.
It’s not about screen sizes, it’s about Apple being behind 2-3 years.. The competition is doing curved over the edge and flexible screens, higher ppi displays, 16MP cameras with phase detection autofocus, multitasking, giving way more customization options and so on.
Has it occurred to you that the competition has nothing else to rely on for profits of any kind? That they don't have anywhere close to the volume in iPads or mobile laptops to "innovate" with or make their while... so they throw anything and everything at their only (half-way for ONE manufacturer!) successful product?
As far as copying yes Apple is doing quite a bit of that too. Bringing a bigger screen iPhone NOW is one example. iOS 7 was copying things from the jailbreaking tweaks that have been available some years before and iOS 8 continue to do it.
Apple has been known throughout it's history for adding good ideas from other developers, and building those functions into it's operating system. Did you really just notice that? Or do you not know much about Apple? And the final question: is it wrong and would you rather not have Apple take cues from it's very own community?
The question of size has been put to rest already: Apple's iPhone is the number one selling smart phone in the world. It handily beats all of the phones on the market as a group that are bigger! Also the things that many people are concerned about, like battery life and fluidity of the interface (speed), are better served by a smaller device, rather than a large one. Until that is... the battery tech, the CPU and GPU, plus the host system itself is ready to give similar performance or better when making the screen bigger.
Apple has stated many times publicly that all of the tech that goes into an iOS device MUST be balanced technically in their eyes, and invisible yet in harmony to it's user's eyes and experience. Everything they have stated they want to do is evident. If that proclamation and mission statement is not enough or wasted on you... then... well you do know by now you have choices, or else you wouldn't be pointing them out so often.
Thanks again for reading all my past posts and I hope you will keep an eye on all my future ones!:)
I hope that goes for all of us, and not just for the Might Troll Slayer?
Edited for clarity and forgot the countdown... :rolleyes:
Nice trash post. Lets look at the rest of your recent trash:
Really now? Never have I ever heard of the 5S "blue screen of death". And if this was actually the case, your 5S is still under warranty and you can go in anytime and swap it out. But odds are, you're just a liar. Don't worry, they'll "lunch" the new one soon, so you can bash that too.
Too "late" for what, exactly? Do you realize the 5S is the best selling phone on the planet? Or do you think Apple is desperately trying to claw its way back to relevancy with this larger phone? What exactly is it "too late" for? So is noone gonna buy the iPhone 6 cause it's "too late"? **** my head hurts. Noone gives a shit how long the "competition" has been making larger phones. Screen size isn't innovation. Did you want Apple to drop everything, **** their roadmap, and duplicate that simply because others were doing it? Wouldn't you have called that "copying"? Oh nevermind- you just called it that in your previous post because they're about to launch a larger phone on their own timetable. What a hypocrite and liar you are.
I'm sensing a trend in your posts, and it's a pretty shitty one. You must have a pathetic existence to spend so much time on a site dedicated to a company you loathe, that makes products you despise.
Hi Slurpy,
Thank you for your interest in my posts, I'm glad someone reads them!
1. regarding the 'blue screen of death, it did happen but likely I got a brand new one from the store. I had all the iPhones except for the first one and nothing like that happened before but the death of my 5S was strange indeed.
2.Yes I do believe Apple is trying to stay relevant with this new iPhone that as I said should have been the iPhone 5 in 2012, and in spite of this we all going to buy it.
It’s not about screen sizes, it’s about Apple being behind 2-3 years.. The competition is doing curved over the edge and flexible screens, higher ppi displays, 16MP cameras with phase detection autofocus, multitasking, giving way more customization options and so on.
As far as copying yes Apple is doing quite a bit of that too. Bringing a bigger screen iPhone NOW is one example. iOS 7 was copying things from the jailbreaking tweaks that have been available some years before and iOS 8 continue to do it.
Thanks again for reading all my past posts and I hope you will keep an eye on all my future ones!
Thanks for confirming to us all again the level of vile, mindless trollishness and idiocy, as if it wasn't enough. Yes, I tend to read past posts before ripping trolls apart, because it gives me an idea if they just happened to say something stupid (we're all guilty of that) or if they have a serial, chronic history of stupidity and trolling, and if they truly deserve the wrath that is to be dished out. In your case, your posts show that you're completely devoid of any kind of objectivity or rational though, only capable of mindlessly regurgitating cliched garbage, to the detriment of the quality of this forum.
1. You "likely" got a new one? Or "luckily? But I thought you were demanding the next iPhone because your current one is dead? Try to keep your lies straight.
2. You could have said all that shit to bash the first iPhone when it came out, or any other Apple product in existence. You can always find "stuff" and "features" the competition does that Apple does not. Whats your point, exactly? Is there a single phone in existence NOW that is overall, a superior phone to the 5S, for example? Going by consumer response and critical reviews- there is not. Not by a LONG shot. So what you're forced to to is "group" every other smartphone in existence together, as if they're a single entity, and all their features combined, and pit them against a single phone from Apple to "prove" that Apple is "behind".
The level of intellectual dishonesty in this type of exercise is nauseating. I read multiple reviews for every significant Android/Windows phone that gets released, because I like to stay informed and objective- and there isn't a single feature (or gimmick) that reviewers agreed upon that was actually truly meaningful and moved things forward, that Apple does not have. What mass produced consumer phone right now has a "flexible" screen? Or did you just pull that one out of your ass? Why do you even want a flexible screen on a phone? Do you even know?
Apple is 2-3 years "behind"? Yeah, because of ALL those other phones that have Touch ID (or something even vaguely as workable), desktop-class 64bit CPUs, dual-tone flashes, motion co-processors, ridiculously precise and solid build quality, a ridiculously balanced feature set that is devoid of a single major flaw, etc? Yeah, there's so many of those. Did you ever ask yourself why tech blogs are still routinely recommending the iPhone 5S TODAY as the best overall smartphone one can buy, even when it is going to be replaced in a matter of days, and has been on the market for years? (ie. thewirecutter, theverge, engadget, etc etc). No, of course you didn't. All these publications, who review new pieces of tech every single day, are still recommending Apple's product because it is "2-3 years behind" everything else. Your comments are so vacuous, so criminally, grotesquely lazy, that they could be copied and pasted in response to every single product Apple has ever released.
Unlike people like you with ADD, Apple has a clear vision of moving things forward in a meaningful way, and building upon that every single year- which does not include insulting consumers by throwing every gimmick at the wall in order to stay in the headlines. You're clearly not at the level where you can understand or appreciate that basic concept, but thats fine- because you'll benefit from it anyway, and Apple will keep doing whats its doing to shape the industry, as its always done- haters like you be damned. If you actually understood this in any capacity, your posts would be an embarrassment to you. Noone is fucking forcing you to go out and buy a new iPhone- for the love of God, just go buy some other random Android phone that is 5 years ahead. It's what you deserve.
What an original quip. Did you come up with that one all by yourself? Or could you not help vomitting out the exact superficial words that other trolls have blurted out?
Offensive comments aside, yes I did come up with that all by myself, thanx!
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you would realize that millions of iPhones are being produced and shipped at this very moment, and literally hundreds of thousands of people have had a part in the manufacturing of the product. We're a couple days away from the reveal. It's not in Tim's power, or any other CEO, or anyone on earth, to prevent such leaks so close to the ship date, when the phone itself is being made in massive quantities- especially since such leaks are so sought out and rewarded (by sites like these). Even if Tim hired an agent to stalk every single person who had anything to do with iPhone manufacturing, leaks would STILL happen. Tim isn't a God, and this is an expected event, at least for most sane, rational human beings who aren't hell bent on bashing Cook and Apple. What a lazy, ignorant comment.
Yes I do realize that millions are 'probably' being shipped right now and leaks are virtually imminent; however, 'doubling down' means that there should be more security and not less. I don't remember a time when this many leaks appeared during SJ years, yes there were the bar leaks, but nothing at this magnitude where they received most hardware parts, screens, and actual phones, in more than one instance, from France to Russia. You have to admit this is not what 'doubling down' means, is it?
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Tell me, why don't we know one fucking fact about the iWatch or how it looks like, even thought its gonna be revealed in a couple days and its the most talked about and rumored product in YEARS? Even though millions of people have obviously tried to pry info about it? Will you give Apple/Cook credit for that fact, since it IS quite the accomplishment? Of course you won't.
Well I can ask you the same question, why aren't there any leaks with the iWatch but many in the iPhone section? Is the iPhone a less important product that doesn't need security anymore? One could argue that it's a distraction ploy, but if you can do it in one area why not do it in both?
I can only give Tim credit when he demonstrates that he deserves it. And actually, we do know more than just one fact about the iWatch, which I'm sure this will also somehow anger you: 1- It will most probably use a Sapphire screen. 2- It will wrap around your wrist. and 3- It may have a battery in the arm-band.
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Yeah, you don't know what Ive was thinking, cause you don't know a damn thing about the phone, the engineering and design considerations that went into it the last 2 years, or anything else.
So you're saying that we should all be sheep, like yourself, and bahhh every time Apple does or doesn't do something. Got it.
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I'm sure every mm of the design was considered, Ive isn't some insane person who made rash and random decisions about the look. It's clear those bands are there for a reason(s), and if you had any damn humility, you would give Apple/Ive the benefit of the doubt, and wait to find out. But no, obviously YOU know better than the most successful company in the world...
Maybe, but if this is actually a final product I still think it looks like crap. I am waiting till Tuesday, if you bothered to read what I wrote without your zealot lenses you'll realize I used word like "I feel that...," "I believe...," and "I think..." However, if you read your own comments, they're phrased as facts, which they're not.
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... and the most influential designer in the world, that has shaped not just Apple's products but also inspired all competitor's products.
Which could sometimes get to your head, just like your obvious zealot worship of a brand, without realizing that this is the same brand that fell flat on its face before, more than once. Apple being the last pure technology brand out there, we should be critical.
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"Marc isn't all that much different" - Oh ok, if you say so- Marc Newsson is one of the most accomplished, versatile and influential designers alive today, who has designed an insane amount of products (Have you looked at his portfolio? Of course not, because that you actually mean you care about accumulating insight and knowledge about what you spout.), but clearly he's not up to your "standards", whatever the **** those are. What an incredible lack of self-awareness it must take to dismiss such an individual, based on absolutely nothing. Your childish nature is inexcusable for someone of your age.
Maybe I should've elaborated on this a little more, Mark's style is very much in-line with Ive's style which doesn't seem to be very challenging. And where is the new blood, how come Apple is only buying famous name designers? This is definitely new. Apple proved to IBM that the best were actually underdogs.
I don't believe I have a 'childish' nature I was merely expressing my thoughts, if you have different thoughts, please express them without being 'childish' either.
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So you keep bitching that Apple should "take risks" and do something "different"- the Mac Pro is a prime example of that- a feat of engineering and design- and yet as expected, you mock it because your wife thinks it looks like a trash can, damn everything else, right? And you make such a comment right after you talk about Ive's "complacency".
Yes, actually I already own a MacPro and it's a wonderful machine. I was not criticizing the technology that went in it, the performance, the awesome value, the manufacturing, or the coating. I was merely criticizing the form factor, try to read what I wrote without purposefully mis-understanding my points so you can blow-off steam.
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The rest of your posts are just as shitty. You sound like a damn child, and a contradictory, hypocritical, and entitled one that that. You clearly have a bone to pick with Apple, one that isn't influenced by facts or reality. In other words, you're a troll, but unfortunately one that is neither original nor witty. Every single useless word you spoute is based on a grotesque level of ignorance and superficiality, and the fact that you so easily tear incredibly accomplished people down is stunning. Congratulations. Thankfully, Apple is led by enlightened people that are at the complete opposite end of the spectrum from you. If you were 10 yrs old, your stupidity and naivety would be excusable (just barely), but since you're old enough to remember Performas, it's simply an embarrassment, and I feel sorry for your inability to exercise rational though, and your propensity to hate.
Fascinating, if this is the AI I knew a few years ago, you would've been banned. I remember a person who also used to express his thoughts here who went by the name "Ca$h" and he used to be banned every few weeks for his outbursts.
I believe loyal zealots are the real embarrassment to Apple, and the zeal-meter has struck the bell in this one.
Thanks for confirming to us all again the level of vile, mindless trollishness and idiocy, as if it wasn't enough. Yes, I tend to read past posts before ripping trolls apart, because it gives me an idea if they just happened to say something stupid (we're all guilty of that) or if they have a serial, chronic history of stupidity and trolling, and if they truly deserve the wrath that is to be dished out. In your case, your posts show that you're completely devoid of any kind of objectivity or rational though, only capable of mindlessly regurgitating cliched garbage, to the detriment of the quality of this forum.
1. You "likely" got a new one? Or "luckily? But I thought you were demanding the next iPhone because your current one is dead? Try to keep your lies straight.
2. You could have said all that shit to bash the first iPhone when it came out, or any other Apple product in existence. You can always find "stuff" and "features" the competition does that Apple does not. Whats your point, exactly? Is there a single phone in existence NOW that is overall, a superior phone to the 5S, for example? Going by consumer response and critical reviews- there is not. Not by a LONG shot. So what you're forced to to is "group" every other smartphone in existence together, as if they're a single entity, and all their features combined, and pit them against a single phone from Apple to "prove" that Apple is "behind".
The level of intellectual dishonesty in this type of exercise is nauseating. I read multiple reviews for every significant Android/Windows phone that gets released, because I like to stay informed and objective- and there isn't a single feature (or gimmick) that reviewers agreed upon that was actually truly meaningful and moved things forward, that Apple does not have. What mass produced consumer phone right now has a "flexible" screen? Or did you just pull that one out of your ass? Why do you even want a flexible screen on a phone? Do you even know?
Apple is 2-3 years "behind"? Yeah, because of ALL those other phones that have Touch ID (or something even vaguely as workable), desktop-class 64bit CPUs, dual-tone flashes, motion co-processors, ridiculously precise and solid build quality, a ridiculously balanced feature set that is devoid of a single major flaw, etc? Yeah, there's so many of those. Did you ever ask yourself why tech blogs are still routinely recommending the iPhone 5S TODAY as the best overall smartphone one can buy, even when it is going to be replaced in a matter of days, and has been on the market for years? (ie. thewirecutter, theverge, engadget, etc etc). No, of course you didn't. All these publications, who review new pieces of tech every single day, are still recommending Apple's product because it is "2-3 years behind" everything else. Your comments are so vacuous, so criminally, grotesquely lazy, that they could be copied and pasted in response to every single product Apple has ever released.
Unlike people like you with ADD, Apple has a clear vision of moving things forward in a meaningful way, and building upon that every single year- which does not include insulting consumers by throwing every gimmick at the wall in order to stay in the headlines. You're clearly not at the level where you can understand or appreciate that basic concept, but thats fine- because you'll benefit from it anyway, and Apple will keep doing whats its doing to shape the industry, as its always done- haters like you be damned. If you actually understood this in any capacity, your posts would be an embarrassment to you. Noone is fucking forcing you to go out and buy a new iPhone- for the love of God, just go buy some other random Android phone that is 5 years ahead. It's what you deserve.
Thank you again for giving so much attention to my comments. I'm not hating Apple, in fact I feel quite the opposite but I'm just expressing my frustration as I said this should have been the iPhone 5 of 2012, that's not hating.
Thanks for confirming to us all again the level of vile, mindless trollishness and idiocy, as if it wasn't enough. Yes, I tend to read past posts before ripping trolls apart, because it gives me an idea if they just happened to say something stupid (we're all guilty of that) or if they have a serial, chronic history of stupidity and trolling, and if they truly deserve the wrath that is to be dished out. In your case, your posts show that you're completely devoid of any kind of objectivity or rational though, only capable of mindlessly regurgitating cliched garbage, to the detriment of the quality of this forum.
1. You "likely" got a new one? Or "luckily? But I thought you were demanding the next iPhone because your current one is dead? Try to keep your lies straight.
2. You could have said all that shit to bash the first iPhone when it came out, or any other Apple product in existence. You can always find "stuff" and "features" the competition does that Apple does not. Whats your point, exactly? Is there a single phone in existence NOW that is overall, a superior phone to the 5S, for example? Going by consumer response and critical reviews- there is not. Not by a LONG shot. So what you're forced to to is "group" every other smartphone in existence together, as if they're a single entity, and all their features combined, and pit them against a single phone from Apple to "prove" that Apple is "behind".
The level of intellectual dishonesty in this type of exercise is nauseating. I read multiple reviews for every significant Android/Windows phone that gets released, because I like to stay informed and objective- and there isn't a single feature (or gimmick) that reviewers agreed upon that was actually truly meaningful and moved things forward, that Apple does not have. What mass produced consumer phone right now has a "flexible" screen? Or did you just pull that one out of your ass? Why do you even want a flexible screen on a phone? Do you even know?
Apple is 2-3 years "behind"? Yeah, because of ALL those other phones that have Touch ID (or something even vaguely as workable), desktop-class 64bit CPUs, dual-tone flashes, motion co-processors, ridiculously precise and solid build quality, a ridiculously balanced feature set that is devoid of a single major flaw, etc? Yeah, there's so many of those. Did you ever ask yourself why tech blogs are still routinely recommending the iPhone 5S TODAY as the best overall smartphone one can buy, even when it is going to be replaced in a matter of days, and has been on the market for years? (ie. thewirecutter, theverge, engadget, etc etc). No, of course you didn't. All these publications, who review new pieces of tech every single day, are still recommending Apple's product because it is "2-3 years behind" everything else. Your comments are so vacuous, so criminally, grotesquely lazy, that they could be copied and pasted in response to every single product Apple has ever released.
Unlike people like you with ADD, Apple has a clear vision of moving things forward in a meaningful way, and building upon that every single year- which does not include insulting consumers by throwing every gimmick at the wall in order to stay in the headlines. You're clearly not at the level where you can understand or appreciate that basic concept, but thats fine- because you'll benefit from it anyway, and Apple will keep doing whats its doing to shape the industry, as its always done- haters like you be damned. If you actually understood this in any capacity, your posts would be an embarrassment to you. Noone is fucking forcing you to go out and buy a new iPhone- for the love of God, just go buy some other random Android phone that is 5 years ahead. It's what you deserve.
We're going to need to discuss building a shrine to contain all of your awesome posts!
I'm rather "text-less" at the moment.... that's probably a good thing!
I am surprised. Other than some airlines and a handful of cliche retailers such as Starbucks, Home Depot, and Target, there isn't much.
every major airline, ticketmaster, MBA, and the top retailers in the nation (not sure how coffee, construction and home goods can all be "cliche" but ok). yeah not much. DOA.
lord...do some of you even read what you write? nobody on this forum has achieved a fraction of the success apple has, yet everyone feels like an expert.
Go away, man. Find something more positive to do with your life.
Could you please explain to us, "the other Apple fans", why must we:
1- Always write positive comments about Apple or its employees.
2- Always assume what the Apple overlords are doing is always the right thing.
3- When Apple is not doing something, it must be for good reason.
SJ and other Apple executive have expressed regret in the past, don't tell me you didn't know that. SJ himself told us how Apple missed the boat on CD burners in the 90's. And now that Apple had cornered themselves with that dumb comment about how touch-screen phone shouldn't have a large screen, then brought out the iPhone 5 which, in portrait is too narrow for web browsing, and in landscape too shallow, all the while other manufacturers are selling their larger screens phones hand over fist. Yes the other brands are inferior, and many people knew that before getting into Android and Windows, but people bought them because the larger screen was clearer, especially for people who can't read 7px text. And most everyone of you in this forum, yes you who criticized other brands for having a larger screen, will buy the new larger screen iPhone and think nothing of it.
The guy said the 5C had weak sales because design. He is wrong. Proven by the fact the 5C has the 2nd highest confirmed sales in the world after the 5S
I don't think he's referring to the basis for your arguments, but rather the vulgar, abusive manner in which you present them. I found the tone and some of the language in your posts genuinely offensive.
Your points are fine. Maybe try presenting them without the insults, though.
every major airline, ticketmaster, MBA, and the top retailers in the nation (not sure how coffee, construction and home goods can all be "cliche" but ok). yeah not much. DOA.
lord...do some of you even read what you write? nobody on this forum has achieved a fraction of the success apple has, yet everyone feels like an expert.
Lol most of us haven't achieved as much success as BlackBerry or even Nest.
You do realize that until this year with the Samsung S5 those big phones would only get 4 hours of LTE internet? Bottom line is the tech was not ready until the last 12 months.
I disagree.
Poor battery life is/was the result of many factors, not least of which is the efficiency of the OS itself. Cost is another big one. Add in things like designers being forced by marketing to put curb appeal (size, weight, look) ahead of long-term usefulness and it's not surprising that a device may not run very long on a charge.
That doesn't mean it wasn't POSSIBLE to make a large-screen phone with long battery life.
Apple wasn't held up by technology. I think they were stuck with a developer system designed around specific screen resolutions which led first to indecision and then to a migration period. Tim's comments about technical hurdles were obvious bullshit. Evidence to the contrary was everywhere, but he was stuck. He couldn't say "We're working on ways to both increase screen size and accommodate developers" because it would give away Apple's plans and open them up to criticism for painting themselves into a corner.
In a way it's kinda ironic, because people like to portray Apple as being free of the "legacy support" issues that plague Windows, yet the resolution-specific design of iOS puts Apple in a similar position when it comes to playing around with screen size.
How (if) Apple finally deals with it will be known in a couple days. I'm anxious to see what they do. The only question for me after that will be what to do with an iPhone 4 that, thanks to a replacement, is only a couple months old!
Fascinating, if this is the AI I knew a few years ago, you would've been banned. I remember a person who also used to express his thoughts here who went by the name "Ca$h" and he used to be banned every few weeks for his outbursts.
I believe loyal zealots are the real embarrassment to Apple, and the zeal-meter has struck the bell in this one.
Hear, hear! A couple of years ago, I was issued an infraction for complementing the ability of somebody's anus to retain things. Now there are a lot of profanity-laced direct attacks, name-calling, etc. I agree that the most zealous are also he most embarrassing. I sometimes say that I use a Mac, but I am one of the normal Mac users.
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You do realize that until this year with the Samsung S5 those big phones would only get 4 hours of LTE internet? Bottom line is the tech was not ready until the last 12 months.</div></div><p> </p>
Apple was always ahead when it comes to bringing something new. for example they introduced the high res screens in the iPhone I believe 4.
I don't think the technology was not ready for them to make a bigger iPhone..
The problem I think is that when the iPhone 5 came out many apps were looking funny since since not optimized for a larger screen, or I should say a different resolution screen. Later they figure that out with the iPad mini retina giving it the same resolution as the Air.. .. I believe it was more like a software issue
Are you a hardware and / or software engineer with detailed and inside knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes to deliver a product such as the iPhone? No, you don't, nor does anyone else here, and we're ill-equipped to be making such comments, so STFU troll.
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And what infrastructure did they build out by getting deals with financial institutions and retailers to make mobile payments more than just a gimmick best served as a spec sheet bullet point to help sell to the ignorant?</div></div><p> </p>
honestly don't care about mobile payments or their deals, it's just me. I have been craving for a bigger iPhone since I've seen the HTCs and Galaxy's a while back. I like apple products too much I guess that I resisted the urge to switch
You don't care, but millions of other people do, so don't let the door hit you on the way out. And PLEASE don't use the "I like Apple products" line, the BS you spew goes directly against that statement.
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Apple is rarely is the first to do something, but looking back it's easy to see why it seems that way because Apple is usually the first to go all in -and- do it right.<br />
That's neither here nor there. I'm concerned why you think Apple is so late to do something when no one has yet to do it right.</div></div><p> </p>
doing it right is total BS.. apple propaganda
Everytime you open your mouth it spews BS, not Apple. Apple is well known for doing it right. There have been times when Apple has deliberately waited on releasing something until the technology matures sufficiently.
Passbook is mediocre crap. I hope -- and expect -- that Apple will have something much better.
Your opinion is one that the majority of people don't share, because it's not crap, especially when weighed against the options on other platforms. I myself use Passbook daily, and couldn't live without it, and know many people who use it too. Now go away.
I am surprised. Other than some airlines and a handful of cliche retailers such as Starbucks, Home Depot, and Target, there isn't much. Also, the system of having to go through apps to figure out who's in there, for what, and with what features/coupons/passes is so darned clunky that I stopped using it very early on.
If Apple is going to roll out something along these lines as its payment system, it had better be universal, one-stop, and self-contained. Otherwise, it'll be DOA.
Do you work for Wall Street? Because you sound like one of those dumb ass anal-ysts that have been saying every Apple product has been DOA when facing such amazing competing products.. STFU with your FUD and get out!
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I despise people like you SO much.
Your opinion is that of a bottom feeder. You are worst kind of critic, and probably a horrible person in reality.
Has it occurred to you that the competition has nothing else to rely on for profits of any kind? That they don't have anywhere close to the volume in iPads or mobile laptops to "innovate" with or make their while... so they throw anything and everything at their only (half-way for ONE manufacturer!) successful product?
Apple has been known throughout it's history for adding good ideas from other developers, and building those functions into it's operating system. Did you really just notice that? Or do you not know much about Apple? And the final question: is it wrong and would you rather not have Apple take cues from it's very own community?
The question of size has been put to rest already: Apple's iPhone is the number one selling smart phone in the world. It handily beats all of the phones on the market as a group that are bigger! Also the things that many people are concerned about, like battery life and fluidity of the interface (speed), are better served by a smaller device, rather than a large one. Until that is... the battery tech, the CPU and GPU, plus the host system itself is ready to give similar performance or better when making the screen bigger.
Apple has stated many times publicly that all of the tech that goes into an iOS device MUST be balanced technically in their eyes, and invisible yet in harmony to it's user's eyes and experience. Everything they have stated they want to do is evident. If that proclamation and mission statement is not enough or wasted on you... then... well you do know by now you have choices, or else you wouldn't be pointing them out so often.
I hope that goes for all of us, and not just for the Might Troll Slayer?
Edited for clarity and forgot the countdown... :rolleyes:
02 DAYS - 01 HOURS - 55 MINUTES -> Apple 3.0
wow - I really enjoyed your novel and unique comment. thanks so much
Nice trash post. Lets look at the rest of your recent trash:
Really now? Never have I ever heard of the 5S "blue screen of death". And if this was actually the case, your 5S is still under warranty and you can go in anytime and swap it out. But odds are, you're just a liar. Don't worry, they'll "lunch" the new one soon, so you can bash that too.
Too "late" for what, exactly? Do you realize the 5S is the best selling phone on the planet? Or do you think Apple is desperately trying to claw its way back to relevancy with this larger phone? What exactly is it "too late" for? So is noone gonna buy the iPhone 6 cause it's "too late"? **** my head hurts. Noone gives a shit how long the "competition" has been making larger phones. Screen size isn't innovation. Did you want Apple to drop everything, **** their roadmap, and duplicate that simply because others were doing it? Wouldn't you have called that "copying"? Oh nevermind- you just called it that in your previous post because they're about to launch a larger phone on their own timetable. What a hypocrite and liar you are.
I'm sensing a trend in your posts, and it's a pretty shitty one. You must have a pathetic existence to spend so much time on a site dedicated to a company you loathe, that makes products you despise.
Hi Slurpy,
Thank you for your interest in my posts, I'm glad someone reads them!
1. regarding the 'blue screen of death, it did happen but likely I got a brand new one from the store. I had all the iPhones except for the first one and nothing like that happened before but the death of my 5S was strange indeed.
2.Yes I do believe Apple is trying to stay relevant with this new iPhone that as I said should have been the iPhone 5 in 2012, and in spite of this we all going to buy it.
It’s not about screen sizes, it’s about Apple being behind 2-3 years.. The competition is doing curved over the edge and flexible screens, higher ppi displays, 16MP cameras with phase detection autofocus, multitasking, giving way more customization options and so on.
As far as copying yes Apple is doing quite a bit of that too. Bringing a bigger screen iPhone NOW is one example. iOS 7 was copying things from the jailbreaking tweaks that have been available some years before and iOS 8 continue to do it.
Thanks again for reading all my past posts and I hope you will keep an eye on all my future ones!
Thanks for confirming to us all again the level of vile, mindless trollishness and idiocy, as if it wasn't enough. Yes, I tend to read past posts before ripping trolls apart, because it gives me an idea if they just happened to say something stupid (we're all guilty of that) or if they have a serial, chronic history of stupidity and trolling, and if they truly deserve the wrath that is to be dished out. In your case, your posts show that you're completely devoid of any kind of objectivity or rational though, only capable of mindlessly regurgitating cliched garbage, to the detriment of the quality of this forum.
1. You "likely" got a new one? Or "luckily? But I thought you were demanding the next iPhone because your current one is dead? Try to keep your lies straight.
2. You could have said all that shit to bash the first iPhone when it came out, or any other Apple product in existence. You can always find "stuff" and "features" the competition does that Apple does not. Whats your point, exactly? Is there a single phone in existence NOW that is overall, a superior phone to the 5S, for example? Going by consumer response and critical reviews- there is not. Not by a LONG shot. So what you're forced to to is "group" every other smartphone in existence together, as if they're a single entity, and all their features combined, and pit them against a single phone from Apple to "prove" that Apple is "behind".
The level of intellectual dishonesty in this type of exercise is nauseating. I read multiple reviews for every significant Android/Windows phone that gets released, because I like to stay informed and objective- and there isn't a single feature (or gimmick) that reviewers agreed upon that was actually truly meaningful and moved things forward, that Apple does not have. What mass produced consumer phone right now has a "flexible" screen? Or did you just pull that one out of your ass? Why do you even want a flexible screen on a phone? Do you even know?
Apple is 2-3 years "behind"? Yeah, because of ALL those other phones that have Touch ID (or something even vaguely as workable), desktop-class 64bit CPUs, dual-tone flashes, motion co-processors, ridiculously precise and solid build quality, a ridiculously balanced feature set that is devoid of a single major flaw, etc? Yeah, there's so many of those. Did you ever ask yourself why tech blogs are still routinely recommending the iPhone 5S TODAY as the best overall smartphone one can buy, even when it is going to be replaced in a matter of days, and has been on the market for years? (ie. thewirecutter, theverge, engadget, etc etc). No, of course you didn't. All these publications, who review new pieces of tech every single day, are still recommending Apple's product because it is "2-3 years behind" everything else. Your comments are so vacuous, so criminally, grotesquely lazy, that they could be copied and pasted in response to every single product Apple has ever released.
Unlike people like you with ADD, Apple has a clear vision of moving things forward in a meaningful way, and building upon that every single year- which does not include insulting consumers by throwing every gimmick at the wall in order to stay in the headlines. You're clearly not at the level where you can understand or appreciate that basic concept, but thats fine- because you'll benefit from it anyway, and Apple will keep doing whats its doing to shape the industry, as its always done- haters like you be damned. If you actually understood this in any capacity, your posts would be an embarrassment to you. Noone is fucking forcing you to go out and buy a new iPhone- for the love of God, just go buy some other random Android phone that is 5 years ahead. It's what you deserve.
Offensive comments aside, yes I did come up with that all by myself, thanx!
Yes I do realize that millions are 'probably' being shipped right now and leaks are virtually imminent; however, 'doubling down' means that there should be more security and not less. I don't remember a time when this many leaks appeared during SJ years, yes there were the bar leaks, but nothing at this magnitude where they received most hardware parts, screens, and actual phones, in more than one instance, from France to Russia. You have to admit this is not what 'doubling down' means, is it?
Well I can ask you the same question, why aren't there any leaks with the iWatch but many in the iPhone section? Is the iPhone a less important product that doesn't need security anymore? One could argue that it's a distraction ploy, but if you can do it in one area why not do it in both?
I can only give Tim credit when he demonstrates that he deserves it. And actually, we do know more than just one fact about the iWatch, which I'm sure this will also somehow anger you: 1- It will most probably use a Sapphire screen. 2- It will wrap around your wrist. and 3- It may have a battery in the arm-band.
So you're saying that we should all be sheep, like yourself, and bahhh every time Apple does or doesn't do something. Got it.
Maybe, but if this is actually a final product I still think it looks like crap. I am waiting till Tuesday, if you bothered to read what I wrote without your zealot lenses you'll realize I used word like "I feel that...," "I believe...," and "I think..." However, if you read your own comments, they're phrased as facts, which they're not.
Which could sometimes get to your head, just like your obvious zealot worship of a brand, without realizing that this is the same brand that fell flat on its face before, more than once. Apple being the last pure technology brand out there, we should be critical.
Maybe I should've elaborated on this a little more, Mark's style is very much in-line with Ive's style which doesn't seem to be very challenging. And where is the new blood, how come Apple is only buying famous name designers? This is definitely new. Apple proved to IBM that the best were actually underdogs.
I don't believe I have a 'childish' nature I was merely expressing my thoughts, if you have different thoughts, please express them without being 'childish' either.
Yes, actually I already own a MacPro and it's a wonderful machine. I was not criticizing the technology that went in it, the performance, the awesome value, the manufacturing, or the coating. I was merely criticizing the form factor, try to read what I wrote without purposefully mis-understanding my points so you can blow-off steam.
Fascinating, if this is the AI I knew a few years ago, you would've been banned. I remember a person who also used to express his thoughts here who went by the name "Ca$h" and he used to be banned every few weeks for his outbursts.
I believe loyal zealots are the real embarrassment to Apple, and the zeal-meter has struck the bell in this one.
Thanks for confirming to us all again the level of vile, mindless trollishness and idiocy, as if it wasn't enough. Yes, I tend to read past posts before ripping trolls apart, because it gives me an idea if they just happened to say something stupid (we're all guilty of that) or if they have a serial, chronic history of stupidity and trolling, and if they truly deserve the wrath that is to be dished out. In your case, your posts show that you're completely devoid of any kind of objectivity or rational though, only capable of mindlessly regurgitating cliched garbage, to the detriment of the quality of this forum.
1. You "likely" got a new one? Or "luckily? But I thought you were demanding the next iPhone because your current one is dead? Try to keep your lies straight.
2. You could have said all that shit to bash the first iPhone when it came out, or any other Apple product in existence. You can always find "stuff" and "features" the competition does that Apple does not. Whats your point, exactly? Is there a single phone in existence NOW that is overall, a superior phone to the 5S, for example? Going by consumer response and critical reviews- there is not. Not by a LONG shot. So what you're forced to to is "group" every other smartphone in existence together, as if they're a single entity, and all their features combined, and pit them against a single phone from Apple to "prove" that Apple is "behind".
The level of intellectual dishonesty in this type of exercise is nauseating. I read multiple reviews for every significant Android/Windows phone that gets released, because I like to stay informed and objective- and there isn't a single feature (or gimmick) that reviewers agreed upon that was actually truly meaningful and moved things forward, that Apple does not have. What mass produced consumer phone right now has a "flexible" screen? Or did you just pull that one out of your ass? Why do you even want a flexible screen on a phone? Do you even know?
Apple is 2-3 years "behind"? Yeah, because of ALL those other phones that have Touch ID (or something even vaguely as workable), desktop-class 64bit CPUs, dual-tone flashes, motion co-processors, ridiculously precise and solid build quality, a ridiculously balanced feature set that is devoid of a single major flaw, etc? Yeah, there's so many of those. Did you ever ask yourself why tech blogs are still routinely recommending the iPhone 5S TODAY as the best overall smartphone one can buy, even when it is going to be replaced in a matter of days, and has been on the market for years? (ie. thewirecutter, theverge, engadget, etc etc). No, of course you didn't. All these publications, who review new pieces of tech every single day, are still recommending Apple's product because it is "2-3 years behind" everything else. Your comments are so vacuous, so criminally, grotesquely lazy, that they could be copied and pasted in response to every single product Apple has ever released.
Unlike people like you with ADD, Apple has a clear vision of moving things forward in a meaningful way, and building upon that every single year- which does not include insulting consumers by throwing every gimmick at the wall in order to stay in the headlines. You're clearly not at the level where you can understand or appreciate that basic concept, but thats fine- because you'll benefit from it anyway, and Apple will keep doing whats its doing to shape the industry, as its always done- haters like you be damned. If you actually understood this in any capacity, your posts would be an embarrassment to you. Noone is fucking forcing you to go out and buy a new iPhone- for the love of God, just go buy some other random Android phone that is 5 years ahead. It's what you deserve.
Thank you again for giving so much attention to my comments. I'm not hating Apple, in fact I feel quite the opposite but I'm just expressing my frustration as I said this should have been the iPhone 5 of 2012, that's not hating.I despise people like you SO much.
Spoken like what the Apple community need less of: blind zealots.
We're going to need to discuss building a shrine to contain all of your awesome posts!
I'm rather "text-less" at the moment.... that's probably a good thing!
02 DAYS - 00 HOURS - 15 MINUTES -> Apple 3.0
every major airline, ticketmaster, MBA, and the top retailers in the nation (not sure how coffee, construction and home goods can all be "cliche" but ok). yeah not much. DOA.
lord...do some of you even read what you write? nobody on this forum has achieved a fraction of the success apple has, yet everyone feels like an expert.
Go away, man. Find something more positive to do with your life.
Could you please explain to us, "the other Apple fans", why must we:
1- Always write positive comments about Apple or its employees.
2- Always assume what the Apple overlords are doing is always the right thing.
3- When Apple is not doing something, it must be for good reason.
SJ and other Apple executive have expressed regret in the past, don't tell me you didn't know that. SJ himself told us how Apple missed the boat on CD burners in the 90's. And now that Apple had cornered themselves with that dumb comment about how touch-screen phone shouldn't have a large screen, then brought out the iPhone 5 which, in portrait is too narrow for web browsing, and in landscape too shallow, all the while other manufacturers are selling their larger screens phones hand over fist. Yes the other brands are inferior, and many people knew that before getting into Android and Windows, but people bought them because the larger screen was clearer, especially for people who can't read 7px text. And most everyone of you in this forum, yes you who criticized other brands for having a larger screen, will buy the new larger screen iPhone and think nothing of it.
Edit: Grammar, spelling
Aww, you kept it.
Let the adults have a polite discussion, please.
The guy said the 5C had weak sales because design. He is wrong. Proven by the fact the 5C has the 2nd highest confirmed sales in the world after the 5S
I don't think he's referring to the basis for your arguments, but rather the vulgar, abusive manner in which you present them. I found the tone and some of the language in your posts genuinely offensive.
Your points are fine. Maybe try presenting them without the insults, though.
every major airline, ticketmaster, MBA, and the top retailers in the nation (not sure how coffee, construction and home goods can all be "cliche" but ok). yeah not much. DOA.
lord...do some of you even read what you write? nobody on this forum has achieved a fraction of the success apple has, yet everyone feels like an expert.
Lol most of us haven't achieved as much success as BlackBerry or even Nest.
Apple is a company, we are individuals.
You do realize that until this year with the Samsung S5 those big phones would only get 4 hours of LTE internet? Bottom line is the tech was not ready until the last 12 months.
I disagree.
Poor battery life is/was the result of many factors, not least of which is the efficiency of the OS itself. Cost is another big one. Add in things like designers being forced by marketing to put curb appeal (size, weight, look) ahead of long-term usefulness and it's not surprising that a device may not run very long on a charge.
That doesn't mean it wasn't POSSIBLE to make a large-screen phone with long battery life.
Apple wasn't held up by technology. I think they were stuck with a developer system designed around specific screen resolutions which led first to indecision and then to a migration period. Tim's comments about technical hurdles were obvious bullshit. Evidence to the contrary was everywhere, but he was stuck. He couldn't say "We're working on ways to both increase screen size and accommodate developers" because it would give away Apple's plans and open them up to criticism for painting themselves into a corner.
In a way it's kinda ironic, because people like to portray Apple as being free of the "legacy support" issues that plague Windows, yet the resolution-specific design of iOS puts Apple in a similar position when it comes to playing around with screen size.
How (if) Apple finally deals with it will be known in a couple days. I'm anxious to see what they do. The only question for me after that will be what to do with an iPhone 4 that, thanks to a replacement, is only a couple months old!
GAH!!!!!!
Here is another iPhone 6 video.
http://youtu.be/LhBBBebKLDU
And you know this how? iPhone sales have been surging ahead with each new version of the device since the original iPhone 4 was released in 2010.
Are you a hardware and / or software engineer with detailed and inside knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes to deliver a product such as the iPhone? No, you don't, nor does anyone else here, and we're ill-equipped to be making such comments, so STFU troll.
You don't care, but millions of other people do, so don't let the door hit you on the way out. And PLEASE don't use the "I like Apple products" line, the BS you spew goes directly against that statement.
Everytime you open your mouth it spews BS, not Apple. Apple is well known for doing it right. There have been times when Apple has deliberately waited on releasing something until the technology matures sufficiently.
Your opinion is one that the majority of people don't share, because it's not crap, especially when weighed against the options on other platforms. I myself use Passbook daily, and couldn't live without it, and know many people who use it too. Now go away.
Do you work for Wall Street? Because you sound like one of those dumb ass anal-ysts that have been saying every Apple product has been DOA when facing such amazing competing products.. STFU with your FUD and get out!
Feed the troll less, and flag his posts to get the attention of the mods, that'll get rid of this type of vermin.