Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
....
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?
So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.
Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.
Apple doesn't have an iPhone under $449, though there may be lower cost models manufacturer for India.
Seriously, do you think that this data makes Apple look bad?
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are, but I will state that it is likely that Apple will sell a similar number of XS and XS Max units World Wide by the end of this month, as Huawei has sold of the P20 series since its March release. The P20 Pro isn't a great seller, although Avon B7 has tried to portray it as a great success, with pretty flakey data. Maybe it is. Nonetheless, is a likelihood that Apple will sell 80 to 85 million iPhones next quarter, and about 70% of those, will be the X models.
Being first with niche features is a fool's game, but appropriate for the Android OS device market, where any differentiation at all is a huge marketing necessity. That's likely why we see mostly unbaked innovation in these devices first. Apple, works off of internal roadmap, so these companies, and their customers, as guinea pigs for new features is actually savvy.
Flakey data?
Niche features?
The data on P20 Series sales came straight from Huawei. Official numbers. It has been a massive success.
Aperture Mode is one of the main features on Huawei phones, not a niche feature. Even on my little Honor 10.
I didn't ask this question last week simply because I thought the feature was different. Seeing the description here, and noting that the process is virtually identical, prompted me to ask.
There is no need to go on the defensive.
From the same company that lies about benchmarks?
So please enlighten us. How many P20 or P20 Pro phones has Huawei sold? Why say "massive success" without backing it up with hard data?
Edited: Funny, I went over to Geekbench and don't see any benchmarks for the P20 or P20 Pro anywhere. Geekbench is useful for one other thing besides benchmarks. They require a minimum number of tests before a device gets listed in their charts. This is why you won't see a device in their charts until some time after it launches and enough people have tested it. The Note 9 is also another device that hasn't hit the charts yet, and like last year, I expect it will show up shortly. The iPhone XS and XS Max have both already shown up, meaning there have been a LOT of sales of these devices. And like in years past, the latest iPhone usually shows up a day or two after release.
I'm REALLY curious why the P20/Pro aren't listed. My guess is it hasn't sold as well as Huawei claims.
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
....
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?
So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.
Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.
Apple doesn't have an iPhone under $449, though there may be lower cost models manufacturer for India.
Seriously, do you think that this data makes Apple look bad?
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are, but I will state that it is likely that Apple will sell a similar number of XS and XS Max units World Wide by the end of this month, as Huawei has sold of the P20 series since its March release. The P20 Pro isn't a great seller, although Avon B7 has tried to portray it as a great success, with pretty flakey data. Maybe it is. Nonetheless, is a likelihood that Apple will sell 80 to 85 million iPhones next quarter, and about 70% of those, will be the X models.
Being first with niche features is a fool's game, but appropriate for the Android OS device market, where any differentiation at all is a huge marketing necessity. That's likely why we see mostly unbaked innovation in these devices first. Apple, works off of internal roadmap, so these companies, and their customers, as guinea pigs for new features is actually savvy.
Flakey data?
Niche features?
The data on P20 Series sales came straight from Huawei. Official numbers. It has been a massive success.
Yes, 10M P20 and P20 Pro is a great success. However, that's like combining iPhone 8 and iPhone X sales. Except that in Apple's case we know that the iPhone X is the best seller. Want to bet that the P20 is the top seller and not the vaunted P20 Pro?
I went to the Apple store to check out the max. Nice but I wish it was still like a bigger phone. I have a 7 plus but could go bigger in size. I understand the screen is bigger but a 0.25 of an inch wider and 0.5 inches longer is ideal for me. My 2 cents.
I'd like to get to the point of trying the camera but my 2018 MBP doesn't see the device. I've gone through the Trust settings/resetting multiple times and the Max shows "Connected" for about a second each time, before reverting to "Connect to iTunes" and never appears in iTunes on the Mac. On my iMP, the Mac notified that additional Apple software had to be installed before the Max could first be accessed. The software was automatically installed in ~3 minutes. Then the Max appeared in iTunes, but my iPhone backup is on the MBP, not the iMP. The notification of additional software did not occur on the MBP. Both Macs are running 10.13.6 and have never seen a beta.
My wife had the same problem. We got around it by reinstalling iTunes. You can get a .dmg of the latest version of iTunes from Apple's website. It didn't do anything to her music, nothing was lost.
It won't see the new phone without the software update and reinstalling iTunes reset whatever flag iTunes had to see in order to trigger the update.
Check the cable too. That problem doesn’t occur with MFI cables, but occurs whenever I interchange original Apple cables. I got the impression that the Mac somehow “remembers” the cable alongside the device, as if it takes the device + cable combo as a whole. Bizarre :-/
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are,...
Apple caters to that market. It doesn't sell into that market.
In fact, Apple takes care of its older flagships selling used under $400 incomparably better than this year's Android 'flagships'.
Consider:
Continued and effective sw and hw support Continued and effective Security and Privacy Updates Helpdesk support Built to Last Rugged Lifespan Longlasting Battery Lifespan
These qualities in Apple's ecosystem are often overlooked.
They don't exist in Android's much, sometimes even on Day 1 of a purchase.
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Why do we care what your crappy chinese knockoffs do?
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
....
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?
So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.
Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.
Clueless drivel. Nobody claimed Apple invented biometrics, we claim they were the first to do them well. Your knockoffs has scanners first but they were garbage.
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
....
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?
So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.
Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.
Apple doesn't have an iPhone under $449, though there may be lower cost models manufacturer for India.
Seriously, do you think that this data makes Apple look bad?
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are, but I will state that it is likely that Apple will sell a similar number of XS and XS Max units World Wide by the end of this month, as Huawei has sold of the P20 series since its March release. The P20 Pro isn't a great seller, although Avon B7 has tried to portray it as a great success, with pretty flakey data. Maybe it is. Nonetheless, is a likelihood that Apple will sell 80 to 85 million iPhones next quarter, and about 70% of those, will be the X models.
Being first with niche features is a fool's game, but appropriate for the Android OS device market, where any differentiation at all is a huge marketing necessity. That's likely why we see mostly unbaked innovation in these devices first. Apple, works off of internal roadmap, so these companies, and their customers, as guinea pigs for new features is actually savvy.
Flakey data?
Niche features?
The data on P20 Series sales came straight from Huawei. Official numbers. It has been a massive success.
Aperture Mode is one of the main features on Huawei phones, not a niche feature. Even on my little Honor 10.
I didn't ask this question last week simply because I thought the feature was different. Seeing the description here, and noting that the process is virtually identical, prompted me to ask.
There is no need to go on the defensive.
From the same company that lies about benchmarks?
So please enlighten us. How many P20 or P20 Pro phones has Huawei sold? Why say "massive success" without backing it up with hard data?
Edited: Funny, I went over to Geekbench and don't see any benchmarks for the P20 or P20 Pro anywhere. Geekbench is useful for one other thing besides benchmarks. They require a minimum number of tests before a device gets listed in their charts. This is why you won't see a device in their charts until some time after it launches and enough people have tested it. The Note 9 is also another device that hasn't hit the charts yet, and like last year, I expect it will show up shortly. The iPhone XS and XS Max have both already shown up, meaning there have been a LOT of sales of these devices. And like in years past, the latest iPhone usually shows up a day or two after release.
I'm REALLY curious why the P20/Pro aren't listed. My guess is it hasn't sold as well as Huawei claims.
You cannot be serious. This again?
Come on. Do your own Googling! There is a thread here where I had to spell this out multiple times and it was still doubted - even though ALL the links were in that same thread!
Do you really want me to dig it out again and take this thread off topic too? Because that is where it will end up. I really can't see the point as this was gone through so recently. This is the first result Google gave me:
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
....
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?
So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.
Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.
Apple doesn't have an iPhone under $449, though there may be lower cost models manufacturer for India.
Seriously, do you think that this data makes Apple look bad?
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are, but I will state that it is likely that Apple will sell a similar number of XS and XS Max units World Wide by the end of this month, as Huawei has sold of the P20 series since its March release. The P20 Pro isn't a great seller, although Avon B7 has tried to portray it as a great success, with pretty flakey data. Maybe it is. Nonetheless, is a likelihood that Apple will sell 80 to 85 million iPhones next quarter, and about 70% of those, will be the X models.
Being first with niche features is a fool's game, but appropriate for the Android OS device market, where any differentiation at all is a huge marketing necessity. That's likely why we see mostly unbaked innovation in these devices first. Apple, works off of internal roadmap, so these companies, and their customers, as guinea pigs for new features is actually savvy.
Flakey data?
Niche features?
The data on P20 Series sales came straight from Huawei. Official numbers. It has been a massive success.
Aperture Mode is one of the main features on Huawei phones, not a niche feature. Even on my little Honor 10.
I didn't ask this question last week simply because I thought the feature was different. Seeing the description here, and noting that the process is virtually identical, prompted me to ask.
There is no need to go on the defensive.
From the same company that lies about benchmarks?
So please enlighten us. How many P20 or P20 Pro phones has Huawei sold? Why say "massive success" without backing it up with hard data?
Edited: Funny, I went over to Geekbench and don't see any benchmarks for the P20 or P20 Pro anywhere. Geekbench is useful for one other thing besides benchmarks. They require a minimum number of tests before a device gets listed in their charts. This is why you won't see a device in their charts until some time after it launches and enough people have tested it. The Note 9 is also another device that hasn't hit the charts yet, and like last year, I expect it will show up shortly. The iPhone XS and XS Max have both already shown up, meaning there have been a LOT of sales of these devices. And like in years past, the latest iPhone usually shows up a day or two after release.
I'm REALLY curious why the P20/Pro aren't listed. My guess is it hasn't sold as well as Huawei claims.
You cannot be serious. This again?
Come on. Do your own Googling! There is a thread here where I had to spell this out multiple times and it was still doubted - even though ALL the links were in that same thread!
Do you really want me to dig it out again and take this thread off topic too? Because that is where it will end up. I really can't see the point as this was gone through so recently. This is the first result Google gave me:
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
....
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?
So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.
Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.
Apple doesn't have an iPhone under $449, though there may be lower cost models manufacturer for India.
Seriously, do you think that this data makes Apple look bad?
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are, but I will state that it is likely that Apple will sell a similar number of XS and XS Max units World Wide by the end of this month, as Huawei has sold of the P20 series since its March release. The P20 Pro isn't a great seller, although Avon B7 has tried to portray it as a great success, with pretty flakey data. Maybe it is. Nonetheless, is a likelihood that Apple will sell 80 to 85 million iPhones next quarter, and about 70% of those, will be the X models.
Being first with niche features is a fool's game, but appropriate for the Android OS device market, where any differentiation at all is a huge marketing necessity. That's likely why we see mostly unbaked innovation in these devices first. Apple, works off of internal roadmap, so these companies, and their customers, as guinea pigs for new features is actually savvy.
Flakey data?
Niche features?
The data on P20 Series sales came straight from Huawei. Official numbers. It has been a massive success.
Aperture Mode is one of the main features on Huawei phones, not a niche feature. Even on my little Honor 10.
I didn't ask this question last week simply because I thought the feature was different. Seeing the description here, and noting that the process is virtually identical, prompted me to ask.
There is no need to go on the defensive.
From the same company that lies about benchmarks?
So please enlighten us. How many P20 or P20 Pro phones has Huawei sold? Why say "massive success" without backing it up with hard data?
Edited: Funny, I went over to Geekbench and don't see any benchmarks for the P20 or P20 Pro anywhere. Geekbench is useful for one other thing besides benchmarks. They require a minimum number of tests before a device gets listed in their charts. This is why you won't see a device in their charts until some time after it launches and enough people have tested it. The Note 9 is also another device that hasn't hit the charts yet, and like last year, I expect it will show up shortly. The iPhone XS and XS Max have both already shown up, meaning there have been a LOT of sales of these devices. And like in years past, the latest iPhone usually shows up a day or two after release.
I'm REALLY curious why the P20/Pro aren't listed. My guess is it hasn't sold as well as Huawei claims.
Huawei had four devices banned for cheating, so whatever data was there, is now gone.
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Honestly, what's your point with this and your other posts defending this post?
Taking a contrarian view is one thing. But, somehow, you always pop in trying to claim that one or more Android competitors is better for one or other real or imagined reason. And, typically, you seem to do this more when new Apple products/services are introduced or on the horizon.
I rarely see any of the long time commenters here blindly standing up for Apple. On the contrary, there's often enough, reasoned criticism about many things Apple does; in fact, I often feel some of AI's article titles and copy are click-baity in a somewhat negative way about Apple.
I daresay anyone on this forum and site of Apple fans is going to be swayed by your 'contrarian' views.
So Apple sells me 2 brand NEW iPhone Xs and sends it with a USB-A cable!! When you sold me a new MBP in January 2017 you told me to switch EVERYTHING to USB-C. I did but you didn't!! Then $5500 for new computers and $3300 for 2 new phones and they can't be connected to each other until I give Apple another $20 for a cable?? USB-C should have been an option when I purchased my new iPhone!! Or am I expecting to much?
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are,...
Apple caters to that market. It doesn't sell into that market.
In fact, Apple takes care of its older flagships selling used under $400 incomparably better than this year's Android 'flagships'.
Consider:
Continued and effective sw and hw support Continued and effective Security and Privacy Updates Helpdesk support Built to Last Rugged Lifespan Longlasting Battery Lifespan
These qualities in Apple's ecosystem are often overlooked.
They don't exist in Android's much, sometimes even on Day 1 of a purchase.
Actually, that’s a very good point, and often overlooked.
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
....
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?
So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.
Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.
Apple doesn't have an iPhone under $449, though there may be lower cost models manufacturer for India.
Seriously, do you think that this data makes Apple look bad?
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are, but I will state that it is likely that Apple will sell a similar number of XS and XS Max units World Wide by the end of this month, as Huawei has sold of the P20 series since its March release. The P20 Pro isn't a great seller, although Avon B7 has tried to portray it as a great success, with pretty flakey data. Maybe it is. Nonetheless, is a likelihood that Apple will sell 80 to 85 million iPhones next quarter, and about 70% of those, will be the X models.
Being first with niche features is a fool's game, but appropriate for the Android OS device market, where any differentiation at all is a huge marketing necessity. That's likely why we see mostly unbaked innovation in these devices first. Apple, works off of internal roadmap, so these companies, and their customers, as guinea pigs for new features is actually savvy.
Flakey data?
Niche features?
The data on P20 Series sales came straight from Huawei. Official numbers. It has been a massive success.
Aperture Mode is one of the main features on Huawei phones, not a niche feature. Even on my little Honor 10.
I didn't ask this question last week simply because I thought the feature was different. Seeing the description here, and noting that the process is virtually identical, prompted me to ask.
There is no need to go on the defensive.
From the same company that lies about benchmarks?
So please enlighten us. How many P20 or P20 Pro phones has Huawei sold? Why say "massive success" without backing it up with hard data?
Edited: Funny, I went over to Geekbench and don't see any benchmarks for the P20 or P20 Pro anywhere. Geekbench is useful for one other thing besides benchmarks. They require a minimum number of tests before a device gets listed in their charts. This is why you won't see a device in their charts until some time after it launches and enough people have tested it. The Note 9 is also another device that hasn't hit the charts yet, and like last year, I expect it will show up shortly. The iPhone XS and XS Max have both already shown up, meaning there have been a LOT of sales of these devices. And like in years past, the latest iPhone usually shows up a day or two after release.
I'm REALLY curious why the P20/Pro aren't listed. My guess is it hasn't sold as well as Huawei claims.
You cannot be serious. This again?
Come on. Do your own Googling! There is a thread here where I had to spell this out multiple times and it was still doubted - even though ALL the links were in that same thread!
Do you really want me to dig it out again and take this thread off topic too? Because that is where it will end up. I really can't see the point as this was gone through so recently. This is the first result Google gave me:
Is there a difference between the camera mode you are describing and what Huawei phones have done for years?
The reason I ask is that when they announced the feature I automatically assumed it would be different but what you describe is practically identical to how Huawei phones have operated since the P9. I thought it was already possible on Apple's dual lens phones.
....
Or is not so much what it does as how it does it?
Huawei? Who cares. Do major US network carriers even carry that pos?
So you assume that rest of the world does not matter, huh? Arrogance like that does not pay of. Huiwaei dominates markets elswhere and perhaps instead of being arrogant you may need reality check that those phones as well as Samsung dominate in Europe and Apple iPhone is nowhere near. You should star caring because on competitive markets other vendors build solutions that Apple follows (not leads) and some brainwash seems to be out there that Apple is the only innovator. The fact is that Apple came with few features 9(like biometrics) later than Samsung for example, but Samsung never claimed it was copied by Apple so you assume that Apple was first. Instead of reading only Apple news maye be you should start tracking general technology state. You would be surprized what you did not know and assumed that only one vendor innovates.
Yes we do care about Huwaei, Samsung, LG and Google. Some pople did not review some features and thise dominant on other markets companies already have some stuff that nobody seems here to have a clue about. On top of that some of it is far more practical. Some even say that Pixel 2 photo quality is now top on the market - not Apple iPhones. there will be those now claimin that Aperture mode is so innovative. Well on phones it alreay exist, and it was used on SLR cameras (I used it for years) for decades now. It just got squeezed into smaller package - nothing else.
Apple doesn't have an iPhone under $449, though there may be lower cost models manufacturer for India.
Seriously, do you think that this data makes Apple look bad?
Sure, Apple doesn't cater at all to the under $400 market, where the bulk of Huawei's sales are, but I will state that it is likely that Apple will sell a similar number of XS and XS Max units World Wide by the end of this month, as Huawei has sold of the P20 series since its March release. The P20 Pro isn't a great seller, although Avon B7 has tried to portray it as a great success, with pretty flakey data. Maybe it is. Nonetheless, is a likelihood that Apple will sell 80 to 85 million iPhones next quarter, and about 70% of those, will be the X models.
Being first with niche features is a fool's game, but appropriate for the Android OS device market, where any differentiation at all is a huge marketing necessity. That's likely why we see mostly unbaked innovation in these devices first. Apple, works off of internal roadmap, so these companies, and their customers, as guinea pigs for new features is actually savvy.
Flakey data?
Niche features?
The data on P20 Series sales came straight from Huawei. Official numbers. It has been a massive success.
Aperture Mode is one of the main features on Huawei phones, not a niche feature. Even on my little Honor 10.
I didn't ask this question last week simply because I thought the feature was different. Seeing the description here, and noting that the process is virtually identical, prompted me to ask.
There is no need to go on the defensive.
From the same company that lies about benchmarks?
So please enlighten us. How many P20 or P20 Pro phones has Huawei sold? Why say "massive success" without backing it up with hard data?
Edited: Funny, I went over to Geekbench and don't see any benchmarks for the P20 or P20 Pro anywhere. Geekbench is useful for one other thing besides benchmarks. They require a minimum number of tests before a device gets listed in their charts. This is why you won't see a device in their charts until some time after it launches and enough people have tested it. The Note 9 is also another device that hasn't hit the charts yet, and like last year, I expect it will show up shortly. The iPhone XS and XS Max have both already shown up, meaning there have been a LOT of sales of these devices. And like in years past, the latest iPhone usually shows up a day or two after release.
I'm REALLY curious why the P20/Pro aren't listed. My guess is it hasn't sold as well as Huawei claims.
You cannot be serious. This again?
Come on. Do your own Googling! There is a thread here where I had to spell this out multiple times and it was still doubted - even though ALL the links were in that same thread!
Do you really want me to dig it out again and take this thread off topic too? Because that is where it will end up. I really can't see the point as this was gone through so recently. This is the first result Google gave me:
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From the same company that lies about benchmarks?
So please enlighten us. How many P20 or P20 Pro phones has Huawei sold? Why say "massive success" without backing it up with hard data?
Edited: Funny, I went over to Geekbench and don't see any benchmarks for the P20 or P20 Pro anywhere. Geekbench is useful for one other thing besides benchmarks. They require a minimum number of tests before a device gets listed in their charts. This is why you won't see a device in their charts until some time after it launches and enough people have tested it. The Note 9 is also another device that hasn't hit the charts yet, and like last year, I expect it will show up shortly. The iPhone XS and XS Max have both already shown up, meaning there have been a LOT of sales of these devices. And like in years past, the latest iPhone usually shows up a day or two after release.
I'm REALLY curious why the P20/Pro aren't listed. My guess is it hasn't sold as well as Huawei claims.
In fact, Apple takes care of its older flagships selling used under $400 incomparably better than this year's Android 'flagships'.
Consider:
Continued and effective sw and hw support
Continued and effective Security and Privacy Updates
Helpdesk support
Built to Last Rugged Lifespan
Longlasting Battery Lifespan
These qualities in Apple's ecosystem are often overlooked.
They don't exist in Android's much, sometimes even on Day 1 of a purchase.
Clueless drivel. Nobody claimed Apple invented biometrics, we claim they were the first to do them well. Your knockoffs has scanners first but they were garbage.
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/09/07/anandtech-huawei
...they’re just another unethical chinese knockoff-shop that is willing to lie and cheat their way up.
So just numbers from Huawei then. Nothing to back it up and no third party corroboration.
Take this thread off topic? You mean like you ALWAYS do shilling for Huawei as if anybody here cares?
Taking a contrarian view is one thing. But, somehow, you always pop in trying to claim that one or more Android competitors is better for one or other real or imagined reason. And, typically, you seem to do this more when new Apple products/services are introduced or on the horizon.
I rarely see any of the long time commenters here blindly standing up for Apple. On the contrary, there's often enough, reasoned criticism about many things Apple does; in fact, I often feel some of AI's article titles and copy are click-baity in a somewhat negative way about Apple.
I daresay anyone on this forum and site of Apple fans is going to be swayed by your 'contrarian' views.
If he’s banned, how come he’s still able to post?
Is he trying to sneak in with a different user name, but AI is matching his original IP address and tagging it with his real name?
The Huawei guy’s excuse for cheating: other companies cheat, so we cheat too.
Hilarious!
To be honest, as soon as he got so desperate that he ran to the Daily Express for evidence, then I’m afraid his argument was already lost.