Apple plans new 16- to 16.5-inch MacBook Pro in 2019 aimed at pro designers

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  • Reply 41 of 106
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,001member
    Soli said:
    The existing enclosure will accommodate 16.15 with no bezel to speak of. If they go to 16.5, it will require a larger enclosure.
    Getting rid of the camera in the display would save some space.

    Which got me wondering, does anyone actually USE the camera in the MacBook Pro? Mine could be defective and I'd never know. I always seem to reach for my iPhone to do anything camera related.
    I'm in the same boat. The same goes for the front-facing camera on my iPhone and it would take me awhile to figure out that the back-facing camera on my iPhone has a problem… which I know first hand when I had my iPhone 4/4S back glass replaced by a 3rd-party after it cracked and it was weeks or months later that I realized that I took a pic that was blurry and realized that the tech didn't remove the plastic film from the inside of the replacement glass.

    But it won't go away. Just like so few users ever connecting their laptops to an external monitor but still needing those dedicated video-out ports, it's a staple that would hurt sales for the small percentage that do require its existence.
    If Apple wants to ever implement FaceID then they might as well keep the camera where it is. I'm sure more use the camera than we think. 
  • Reply 42 of 106
    KITAKITA Posts: 201member
    I am lusting after a thin powerful laptop with an i9 processor and RTX 2080 GPU. I would buy it from Apple if they made one like that.
    I mean, you've pretty much described the Gigabyte Aero 15-Y9.
    • Intel Core i9-8850HK
    • RTX 2080 Max-Q 8GB GDDR6
    • 94.24 Wh battery
    • 0.74" thick
    • 4.49 lbs


    So it's certainly possible for Apple to make a similar laptop. Of course, they wouldn't use NVIDIA at this point.
  • Reply 43 of 106
    The best thing about slumping iPhone sales and smartphone saturation throughout the world, is that perhaps Apple will put some people back in the Mac marketplace and come out with something new more often than every 5+ years! I'm glad smartphones are waning... I'm so sick and tired of going to a "MAC" site and seeing nothing but shit about f****** iPhones!
    macike
  • Reply 44 of 106
    The existing enclosure will accommodate 16.15 with no bezel to speak of. If they go to 16.5, it will require a larger enclosure.
    Getting rid of the camera in the display would save some space.

    Which got me wondering, does anyone actually USE the camera in the MacBook Pro? Mine could be defective and I'd never know. I always seem to reach for my iPhone to do anything camera related.
    Check out this year’s XPS13, it got a tiny 720p on top of the screen.
  • Reply 45 of 106
    Apple finally owning up to the fact that cutting big display MacBooks was their biggest mistake!

  • Reply 46 of 106
    macxpress said:
    Soli said:
    The existing enclosure will accommodate 16.15 with no bezel to speak of. If they go to 16.5, it will require a larger enclosure.
    Getting rid of the camera in the display would save some space.

    Which got me wondering, does anyone actually USE the camera in the MacBook Pro? Mine could be defective and I'd never know. I always seem to reach for my iPhone to do anything camera related.
    I'm in the same boat. The same goes for the front-facing camera on my iPhone and it would take me awhile to figure out that the back-facing camera on my iPhone has a problem… which I know first hand when I had my iPhone 4/4S back glass replaced by a 3rd-party after it cracked and it was weeks or months later that I realized that I took a pic that was blurry and realized that the tech didn't remove the plastic film from the inside of the replacement glass.

    But it won't go away. Just like so few users ever connecting their laptops to an external monitor but still needing those dedicated video-out ports, it's a staple that would hurt sales for the small percentage that do require its existence.
    If Apple wants to ever implement FaceID then they might as well keep the camera where it is. I'm sure more use the camera than we think. 
    I would happily live with a forehead bezel if it got me Face ID! I hope that's something Apple plans to do.
  • Reply 47 of 106
    I have a dim hope it might get user-serviceable SSD and memory.
    With any luck. Hopefully not all glued together components.
  • Reply 48 of 106
    davgreg said:
    I have pretty much given up on Apple laptops and recently purchased a Surface Pro as a “real computer” companion to my iPad Pro 12.9.

    My bet is that the mainstream laptop market is or will soon be a shrinking ice cube. The new iPad Pro and iOS still are not a replacement for a laptop, but are getting closer. I really think Apple is missing an /opportunity by not making a Surface like device that has full file access based on either Mac OS or iOS.

    It is still early days with the Surface Pro, but there is a lot to like. My i5 Surface Pro (6) cost less than my iPad Pro- quite a bit less. The power adapter set up is sucky, but the unit is very nice and boots faster than any Mac or iPad I have seen.
    Since when iPad /Mac need to reboot every single time?

     Apple designs iOS/macOS as an instant on device. Don’t think many iOS/Mac user need to power off their devices every time they finish their work! We can run our devices weeks or months without crashing or have need to reboot for the machine to run smoothly.
    macxpress
  • Reply 49 of 106
    viclauyyc said:
    Since when iPad /Mac need to reboot every single time?
    See post #33. I have to reboot my Mac regularly to correct odd behaviours. Things like pull-downs in iTunes appearing with what's below them overlaid on top, menu selections that won't respond, keyboard shortcuts producing unexpected results -- stuff that's alarming when it happens, but is miraculously cured by a reboot.

    The same is true of our iOS devices. It happens much less frequently to them, but they'll periodically refuse to connect via Bluetooth, or playlists will be missing from the Music app, or Mail refuses to update, all of which are resolved by power cycling.
  • Reply 50 of 106
    macxpress said:
    Apple developing a laptop aimed at gamers???? LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

    What gamer is going to buy a Mac? Every Mac user already gets laughed at when they say they want to play games on their Mac. 

    I can see a larger MacBook Pro being used for other things such as designing. You could put VEGA Graphics inside it and use the extra space for cooling them. I don't know if Apple dares put a Xeon inside it?
    I play games on my Mac, it's not its primary use, but it's not like it's *that* weird to do so. That said, I understand why nobody buys a Mac primarily as a gaming device.

    My 15" already has Vega graphics in it, btw. 
    macxpress
  • Reply 51 of 106

    DuhSesame said:
    Considering the maximum resolution (more space) for a 15” is 3840x2400 (1920x1200 @2x), I guess a 16”~16.5” would be 5120x3200 (2560x1600 @2x).

    The actual resolution would bump from 2880x1800 (1440x900 @2x) to 3360x2100 (1680x1050 @2x), and the new native will be 3840x2400 (1920x1200 @2x).
    The max resolution is 2880x1800 not 3840x2400. It scales to 1920x1200 but not at 2x resolution.
    macxpress
  • Reply 52 of 106
    dig48109 said:

    64GB should also be an option since I can forsee a lot of people would like to use a VR headset. Like using a HTC Vive. 

    Currently, this affects a lot of VR development on the Mac platform. they need a more hefty laptop to drive VR 
    Why would you need 64GB of RAM for VR?

    Also, the obvious solution for now is an eGPU for VR.
    macxpress
  • Reply 53 of 106
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,001member
    macxpress said:
    Apple developing a laptop aimed at gamers???? LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

    What gamer is going to buy a Mac? Every Mac user already gets laughed at when they say they want to play games on their Mac. 

    I can see a larger MacBook Pro being used for other things such as designing. You could put VEGA Graphics inside it and use the extra space for cooling them. I don't know if Apple dares put a Xeon inside it?
    I play games on my Mac, it's not its primary use, but it's not like it's *that* weird to do so. That said, I understand why nobody buys a Mac primarily as a gaming device.

    My 15" already has Vega graphics in it, btw. 
    I do too, but a true gamer laughs at the Mac, not a casual gamer who plays every once in a while. 
  • Reply 54 of 106
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,001member

    viclauyyc said:
    Since when iPad /Mac need to reboot every single time?
    See post #33. I have to reboot my Mac regularly to correct odd behaviours. Things like pull-downs in iTunes appearing with what's below them overlaid on top, menu selections that won't respond, keyboard shortcuts producing unexpected results -- stuff that's alarming when it happens, but is miraculously cured by a reboot.

    The same is true of our iOS devices. It happens much less frequently to them, but they'll periodically refuse to connect via Bluetooth, or playlists will be missing from the Music app, or Mail refuses to update, all of which are resolved by power cycling.
    Quite odd though that this isn't a widespread issue. Maybe it's time for a reload of your OS from scratch. 
  • Reply 55 of 106
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 1,149member
    dig48109 said:

    64GB should also be an option since I can forsee a lot of people would like to use a VR headset. Like using a HTC Vive. 

    Currently, this affects a lot of VR development on the Mac platform. they need a more hefty laptop to drive VR 
    Why would you need 64GB of RAM for VR?

    Also, the obvious solution for now is an eGPU for VR.
    Or two tiny eGPUs with timing system between them like the airpods do with sound but vastly more bandwidth.

    Sort of like the GPU cores in the Aseries with each core running a vertical segment of screen. As capiblity improves the slices get smaller and would let them segment the screen on the pivot point of each eye.
  • Reply 56 of 106

    DuhSesame said:
    Considering the maximum resolution (more space) for a 15” is 3840x2400 (1920x1200 @2x), I guess a 16”~16.5” would be 5120x3200 (2560x1600 @2x).

    The actual resolution would bump from 2880x1800 (1440x900 @2x) to 3360x2100 (1680x1050 @2x), and the new native will be 3840x2400 (1920x1200 @2x).
    The max resolution is 2880x1800 not 3840x2400. It scales to 1920x1200 but not at 2x resolution.
    3840x2400 is the maximum scaled resolution (which simulates 1920x1200, but 2x the scale).  The native resolution is 2880x1800 and simulates 1440x900.
    edited February 18
  • Reply 57 of 106
    I was so unimpressed with the MBP 2018.. had one for 2 weeks thanks to company I worked for, it was basically the same as my 2012 15" retina. Somewhat smaller, somewhat worse keyboard, annoying dongles, a bit faster. I don't even know if I'd take the trade-off between a moderate speed boost and that annoying dongle issue but I do know it's not worth $4,000. How much better is it overall, in USD terms... maybe a few hundred bucks? At the most. And this was the i9 maxed out. Maybe they'll fix the keyboard and make it cheaper. That would be OK. The 17" MBP which I had from 2009-2012 was the best laptop ever. Never any issue, also had the glass screen which did not scratch (or smudge). Probably, so far, the pinnacle of MacBook Pro. Well the 15" retina is amazing too, and absurdly long lasting... 6 years later and it's 20% slower than the newest?? That's just strange. Also a tank.
  • Reply 58 of 106
    macxpress said:

    viclauyyc said:
    Since when iPad /Mac need to reboot every single time?
    See post #33. I have to reboot my Mac regularly to correct odd behaviours. Things like pull-downs in iTunes appearing with what's below them overlaid on top, menu selections that won't respond, keyboard shortcuts producing unexpected results -- stuff that's alarming when it happens, but is miraculously cured by a reboot.

    The same is true of our iOS devices. It happens much less frequently to them, but they'll periodically refuse to connect via Bluetooth, or playlists will be missing from the Music app, or Mail refuses to update, all of which are resolved by power cycling.
    Quite odd though that this isn't a widespread issue. Maybe it's time for a reload of your OS from scratch. 
    While my particular case may require more frequent reboots than is typical, I don't think occasional restarts to refocus a confused machine are all that unusual. We all do it from time to time, we just don't think about it. When someone tells you their machine is doing something peculiar, what's the first thing you tell them? "Tty turning it off then on again."

    Even my mini in the living room, which does nothing but provide access to my media library via Home Sharing, benefits from restarting it every few days. It seems to get tired and gradually slows down. After a restart it's refreshed and runs at full speed again. It probably doesn't really NEED the reboot, as the only affect of whatever's happening is that the UI becomes slower to respond, but it does tend to contradict the assertion that the only reason to ever reboot a Mac is after a software update that requires it.
  • Reply 59 of 106
    profprof Posts: 76member
    Hell yeah! I've got my wallet at the ready... Not going to hold my breath though, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is...
    edited February 19
  • Reply 60 of 106
    sphericspheric Posts: 1,798member
    Apple finally owning up to the fact that cutting big display MacBooks was their biggest mistake!

     :D  :D :D :D

    Discontinuing it didn't negatively affect either their Mac line's profitability nor unit sales. 
    edited February 19 fastasleep
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