It's all in good fun, boys. I'd love to have a bidet in my house, but right now I'm renting and there just isn't an apartment complex that has 'em. I can live without a bidet like I can live without a dishwasher.
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Originally posted by Influenza
Re: Gays in Europe
Oh please, as if homosexuality isn't outright celebrated in America. You watch Queer Eye for the Straight Guy every week. Admit it! [/B]
OK, I admit it! I watch Queer Eye and I like it! There, you happy now?!
I leave you hosers alone for 24 hours and look what happens - poop talk and the most embarrassing display of new-girl-on-the-boards pick-up lines since Kate or Mulatta (before she went undercover).....
Meanwhile, I'd like to thank Steve for the info on the ComfortSeat...I didn't even know I wanted one until now....and I thought that Airport was the biggest thing to improve my visits to the restroom!
I thought bidets were just another means of aquatic entertainment... sort of like having Buckingham fountain in your bathroom. You mean people actually hang their butts over those things and....
eating feces, prudence would suggest, is toxic. the mouth is very basic (pH-wise), the stomach less so and by the intestines, the digestive tract is very acidic. there's bile in there. i would think it'd burn holes in your esophagus.
i have my bowel movements well trained. the urge hits most commonly in the morning. and i shower every morning afterward. if i don't feel the urge, i sometimes try to force a little out, so as not to encourage it later on in the day. rarely do i have to more than once a day, but when i do i only shower after the first. i suppose in the bidet's absence, we use more tp.
i never tried a bidet, nor have i encountered one in person. not even on my european adventures. though i met some interesting lavatories across the sea. i guess they aren't common in northern europe. if it were available i would probably try it, but in its absence i don't feel it so necessary. ignorance is bliss i suppose.
It is the bacteria that causes infections, but your physician was probably right. Eating your shit wouldn't be so bad, because your stomach is real good at killing most bacteria, and what survives will be right at home in your intestines. But it's not at home anywhere else, and so can cause nasty infections if it gets spread outside your intestines: your genitals, your eyes, your ears, wounds, etc.
actually, think about a little.
seriously. we have an immune system. we actually develop an immune response to the bacteria etc in our intestine. unless you have an impaired immune response you are not going to get an infection from the shit born bacteria. and the physician who suggested this was on tv and not in a doctors office.
eating feces, prudence would suggest, is toxic. the mouth is very basic (pH-wise), the stomach less so and by the intestines, the digestive tract is very acidic. there's bile in there. i would think it'd burn holes in your esophagus.
babies eat there own shit all the time given the chance, and dogs do too. and since the bacteria in the gut need to create a proton gradient across their membrane, they too add to the acidity. however, one must assume it doesnt get too acidic, less we have acid burns on our bum. The test can be done, but I would say the pH is on the acidic side of neutral but nowhere near as acidic as stomach acid or lemon juice.
Edit: just googled it. pH of dog feces: 7.27, which is about the ideal pH for blood. eh. there must be some sort of proton sponging action in the intestine.
seriously. we have an immune system. we actually develop an immune response to the bacteria etc in our intestine. unless you have an impaired immune response you are not going to get an infection from the shit born bacteria. and the physician who suggested this was on tv and not in a doctors office.
Most urinary tract infections come from fecal contamination. Ask your girlfriend. Infections from this stuff tend to happen in places where the immune system has trouble penetrating (UT, eye, wounds, etc) or places where there is normal flora that is displaced by the intruders (vagina, ear, etc).
The much bigger problem with eating shit, of course, is all the other nasty buggers that can live down there. Not such a problem if you eat your own shit (at worst you'll auto-reinnoculate your intestine), but shit-to-mouth, aka eating shit, aka fecal-oral transmission, is still the world's #1 way to spread disease from person to person. Cholera, rotavirus, all manner of helminths and roundworms, you name it. Drinking water that is contaminated with fecal matter is probably the #1 cause of preventable death in the world.
Which is why washing your hands is way more important than using a bidet. Don't do your business (or pick your bare ass later) and then scratch your eye or shake someone's hand without washing your hands first.
The much bigger problem with eating shit, of course, is all the other nasty buggers that can live down there. Not such a problem if you eat your own shit (at worst you'll auto-reinnoculate your intestine), but shit-to-mouth, aka eating shit, aka fecal-oral transmission, is still the world's #1 way to spread disease from person to person
And I thought that eating shit was the worst part about it
Edit: just googled it. pH of dog feces: 7.27, which is about the ideal pH for blood. eh. there must be some sort of proton sponging action in the intestine.
The stomach is very acidic, because it secretes hydrochoric acid from specialized cells. It has a special lining of mucus to keep from digestig itself. Once that acidic chyme passes into the small intestine, it's met by a deluge of bicarbonate from the pancreas, which quickly neutralizes it. A good thing, because only the first little bit of the small intestine is protected by mucus like the stomach - the rest would be ripped to shreds by the acidity. The contents of the intestines remain neutral for the rest of the trip. Bile isn't a strong enough acid to change the pH - it's more of a buffer. And most of it is reabsorbed at the far end of the small intestine, anyway.
So yeah, shit is neutral. The marvelous things you learn in medical school.
Argh, from discussing the various methods of cleaning one's bum to the health implications of eating one's own shit? What the FOOK are you guys smoking?
Personally I like bidets (I've only used one a couple of times), but I do keep those little baby wipes around and they work just as well without having to spend a bunch of money on a hose to spray off my ass. I don't want to feel like I need to shower every time I poop. Yeah, paper usually works well enough but not always. And sometimes I have to use so much it clogs the toilet.
You know, in America they do sell adult baby-wipe type things for just this purpose. I don't think they've made it to the west coast yet. In fact, this country has gone crazy for disposable, chemical-soaked sheets of paper for any and every purpose.
Re: Girls
Carol is totally a man. Oh yeah. Or a bored, trolling housewife.
Re: Japan
These people fold their dirty clothes, for petesakes! They're nuts. Many perfectly typical forms of Japanese behavior would be diagnosed as mental illness and the 'patients' would probably be medicated or institutionalized in the US. Of course this is also a country in which women are generally not expected to consent to sex. Ever. And where there's vending machines that sell used schoolgirl panties, and pedophilia seems to be the national pastime.
Er... no offense to any Japanese folks here. Love your cartoons!
Re: comparison to PC vs. Mac arguments
My Mac never tried to introduce a foreign substance into my rectum. Well, maybe my bank account would disagree.
Re: Gays in Europe
Oh please, as if homosexuality isn't outright celebrated in America. You watch Queer Eye for the Straight Guy every week. Admit it!
>>Re: Girls
Carol is totally a man. Oh yeah. Or a bored, trolling housewife. <<
Well, Influenza, I am in fact a teacher on Christmas break. A teacher who hasn't graded even one of the 135 short stories I have piled in a giant stack.
And as to being a man, I suppose we could have a contest to see who could describe mentrual cramps better, you or I. Or maybe you could ask me a question that only a female would know the answer to. But if you want to think I'm a guy, I guess I don't mind. Why should I? My ex husband and my various boyfriends would be surprised to hear that, I think.
But I do know what you mean if you're implying I don't "sound" like a female. I love military history, reading about war (strategy and tactics), spy stories, stuff like that. I can't abide feminist stuff, or books written by females about their troubles. Yuck!
So, anyway, I AM a female, but think what you like. I can deal with it.
Oh, and PLEASE tell me you're kidding about the vending machines selling used school girl panties? Surely that can't possibly be true. Please say it ain't so.
Oh, and PLEASE tell me you're kidding about the vending machines selling used school girl panties? Surely that can't possibly be true. Please say it ain't so.
you are also used to public toilets with never finding toilet paper, and dirty bidets then. hte other side of italy.
i think i prefer a clean toilet with paper than one with a bidet but no paper or dirty enough so you with you had a .... guesswhat so you could pee like a guy.
In one of the "Year in Provence" books, I read that the toilet in a French cafe/bar consisted of merely a flat basin area on the floor, with slight depressions into which to put one's feet, and then you had to leap out of the way when the flush occurred, all while racing the light-timer on the light-switch that kept the 20-watt bulb lit for something like thirty seconds, unless you turned it again, which is a little hard to do from across the room while straddling a floor basin with your pants down. hehehahahaha.
Btw, how is that for a truly FINE example of a run-on sentence? I kind of like it, however, and think I will let it stand. Since I am an English teacher, it does cause me an intense intial qualm...but then it's always fun to break the rules from time to time. hehe. And if you're going to break the rules, you might as well really break them.
Anyway, I REALLY shouldn't say this, and I'll probably be sorry for doing so, BUT.....I've kinda had the feeling that the French HAD to invent the bidet, because they are totally into sex, but not totally into bathing. Hence, a major appliance for the purpose of cleansing before sex, without having to actually take an entire shower.....
If I'm WAY out of line here, I truly do apologize; but this has been my suspicion about the bidet for a long time.
One of the ads on the top is a bidet superstore!!!!
so we're actually sponsored by a bidet store!
sorry to burst your bubble, but that's the nature of google ads... they change based off the keywords found on the page they reside. check out the google ads on the main forum pages or in different topics, and you'll see that they'll change based of significant words and phrases.
unfortunately, this can also lead to tasteless ads being displayed, such as ads for low airfares being displayed during discussions of plane hijackings and sept. 11th...
Comments
Originally posted by Influenza
Re: Gays in Europe
Oh please, as if homosexuality isn't outright celebrated in America. You watch Queer Eye for the Straight Guy every week. Admit it! [/B]
OK, I admit it! I watch Queer Eye and I like it! There, you happy now?!
Meanwhile, I'd like to thank Steve for the info on the ComfortSeat...I didn't even know I wanted one until now....and I thought that Airport was the biggest thing to improve my visits to the restroom!
...ewwwww!
(Carol - run away now, while there's still time.)
i have my bowel movements well trained. the urge hits most commonly in the morning. and i shower every morning afterward. if i don't feel the urge, i sometimes try to force a little out, so as not to encourage it later on in the day. rarely do i have to more than once a day, but when i do i only shower after the first. i suppose in the bidet's absence, we use more tp.
i never tried a bidet, nor have i encountered one in person. not even on my european adventures. though i met some interesting lavatories across the sea. i guess they aren't common in northern europe. if it were available i would probably try it, but in its absence i don't feel it so necessary. ignorance is bliss i suppose.
Enough is probably enough, thanks.
Originally posted by Towel
It is the bacteria that causes infections, but your physician was probably right. Eating your shit wouldn't be so bad, because your stomach is real good at killing most bacteria, and what survives will be right at home in your intestines. But it's not at home anywhere else, and so can cause nasty infections if it gets spread outside your intestines: your genitals, your eyes, your ears, wounds, etc.
actually, think about a little.
seriously. we have an immune system. we actually develop an immune response to the bacteria etc in our intestine. unless you have an impaired immune response you are not going to get an infection from the shit born bacteria. and the physician who suggested this was on tv and not in a doctors office.
Originally posted by thuh Freak
eating feces, prudence would suggest, is toxic. the mouth is very basic (pH-wise), the stomach less so and by the intestines, the digestive tract is very acidic. there's bile in there. i would think it'd burn holes in your esophagus.
babies eat there own shit all the time given the chance, and dogs do too. and since the bacteria in the gut need to create a proton gradient across their membrane, they too add to the acidity. however, one must assume it doesnt get too acidic, less we have acid burns on our bum. The test can be done, but I would say the pH is on the acidic side of neutral but nowhere near as acidic as stomach acid or lemon juice.
Edit: just googled it. pH of dog feces: 7.27, which is about the ideal pH for blood. eh. there must be some sort of proton sponging action in the intestine.
Originally posted by billybobsky
actually, think about a little.
seriously. we have an immune system. we actually develop an immune response to the bacteria etc in our intestine. unless you have an impaired immune response you are not going to get an infection from the shit born bacteria. and the physician who suggested this was on tv and not in a doctors office.
Most urinary tract infections come from fecal contamination. Ask your girlfriend.
The much bigger problem with eating shit, of course, is all the other nasty buggers that can live down there. Not such a problem if you eat your own shit (at worst you'll auto-reinnoculate your intestine), but shit-to-mouth, aka eating shit, aka fecal-oral transmission, is still the world's #1 way to spread disease from person to person. Cholera, rotavirus, all manner of helminths and roundworms, you name it. Drinking water that is contaminated with fecal matter is probably the #1 cause of preventable death in the world.
Which is why washing your hands is way more important than using a bidet. Don't do your business (or pick your bare ass later) and then scratch your eye or shake someone's hand without washing your hands first.
Originally posted by Towel
The much bigger problem with eating shit, of course, is all the other nasty buggers that can live down there. Not such a problem if you eat your own shit (at worst you'll auto-reinnoculate your intestine), but shit-to-mouth, aka eating shit, aka fecal-oral transmission, is still the world's #1 way to spread disease from person to person
And I thought that eating shit was the worst part about it
Originally posted by billybobsky
Edit: just googled it. pH of dog feces: 7.27, which is about the ideal pH for blood. eh. there must be some sort of proton sponging action in the intestine.
The stomach is very acidic, because it secretes hydrochoric acid from specialized cells. It has a special lining of mucus to keep from digestig itself. Once that acidic chyme passes into the small intestine, it's met by a deluge of bicarbonate from the pancreas, which quickly neutralizes it. A good thing, because only the first little bit of the small intestine is protected by mucus like the stomach - the rest would be ripped to shreds by the acidity. The contents of the intestines remain neutral for the rest of the trip. Bile isn't a strong enough acid to change the pH - it's more of a buffer. And most of it is reabsorbed at the far end of the small intestine, anyway.
So yeah, shit is neutral. The marvelous things you learn in medical school.
Personally I like bidets (I've only used one a couple of times), but I do keep those little baby wipes around and they work just as well without having to spend a bunch of money on a hose to spray off my ass. I don't want to feel like I need to shower every time I poop. Yeah, paper usually works well enough but not always. And sometimes I have to use so much it clogs the toilet.
Originally posted by billybobsky
hey now. i think it peaked at the pH of dog feces.
hey now, peak?????
we've only just started!!!
One of the ads on the top is a bidet superstore!!!!
so we're actually sponsored by a bidet store!
Originally posted by Influenza
Re: Bidets, toilet paper, etc.
You know, in America they do sell adult baby-wipe type things for just this purpose. I don't think they've made it to the west coast yet. In fact, this country has gone crazy for disposable, chemical-soaked sheets of paper for any and every purpose.
Re: Girls
Carol is totally a man. Oh yeah. Or a bored, trolling housewife.
Re: Japan
These people fold their dirty clothes, for petesakes! They're nuts. Many perfectly typical forms of Japanese behavior would be diagnosed as mental illness and the 'patients' would probably be medicated or institutionalized in the US. Of course this is also a country in which women are generally not expected to consent to sex. Ever. And where there's vending machines that sell used schoolgirl panties, and pedophilia seems to be the national pastime.
Er... no offense to any Japanese folks here. Love your cartoons!
Re: comparison to PC vs. Mac arguments
My Mac never tried to introduce a foreign substance into my rectum. Well, maybe my bank account would disagree.
Re: Gays in Europe
Oh please, as if homosexuality isn't outright celebrated in America. You watch Queer Eye for the Straight Guy every week. Admit it!
>>Re: Girls
Carol is totally a man. Oh yeah. Or a bored, trolling housewife.
Well, Influenza, I am in fact a teacher on Christmas break. A teacher who hasn't graded even one of the 135 short stories I have piled in a giant stack.
And as to being a man, I suppose we could have a contest to see who could describe mentrual cramps better, you or I. Or maybe you could ask me a question that only a female would know the answer to. But if you want to think I'm a guy, I guess I don't mind. Why should I? My ex husband and my various boyfriends would be surprised to hear that, I think.
But I do know what you mean if you're implying I don't "sound" like a female. I love military history, reading about war (strategy and tactics), spy stories, stuff like that. I can't abide feminist stuff, or books written by females about their troubles. Yuck!
So, anyway, I AM a female, but think what you like. I can deal with it.
Oh, and PLEASE tell me you're kidding about the vending machines selling used school girl panties? Surely that can't possibly be true.
Carol
Originally posted by Carol A
Oh, and PLEASE tell me you're kidding about the vending machines selling used school girl panties? Surely that can't possibly be true.
http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.htm
Originally posted by Giaguara
you are also used to public toilets with never finding toilet paper, and dirty bidets then. hte other side of italy.
i think i prefer a clean toilet with paper than one with a bidet but no paper or dirty enough so you with you had a .... guesswhat so you could pee like a guy.
In one of the "Year in Provence" books, I read that the toilet in a French cafe/bar consisted of merely a flat basin area on the floor, with slight depressions into which to put one's feet, and then you had to leap out of the way when the flush occurred, all while racing the light-timer on the light-switch that kept the 20-watt bulb lit for something like thirty seconds, unless you turned it again, which is a little hard to do from across the room while straddling a floor basin with your pants down. hehehahahaha.
Btw, how is that for a truly FINE example of a run-on sentence? I kind of like it, however, and think I will let it stand. Since I am an English teacher, it does cause me an intense intial qualm...but then it's always fun to break the rules from time to time. hehe. And if you're going to break the rules, you might as well really break them.
Anyway, I REALLY shouldn't say this, and I'll probably be sorry for doing so, BUT.....I've kinda had the feeling that the French HAD to invent the bidet, because they are totally into sex, but not totally into bathing. Hence, a major appliance for the purpose of cleansing before sex, without having to actually take an entire shower.....
If I'm WAY out of line here, I truly do apologize; but this has been my suspicion about the bidet for a long time.
Carol
Originally posted by stevegongrui
Guys! How funny!
One of the ads on the top is a bidet superstore!!!!
so we're actually sponsored by a bidet store!
sorry to burst your bubble, but that's the nature of google ads... they change based off the keywords found on the page they reside. check out the google ads on the main forum pages or in different topics, and you'll see that they'll change based of significant words and phrases.
unfortunately, this can also lead to tasteless ads being displayed, such as ads for low airfares being displayed during discussions of plane hijackings and sept. 11th...
BTW, as much as I enjoy discussing the merits of dog poop pH, this thread started down the road to No Good hours ago.