rob53

People need to understand the patent trial ended in a hung jury because only one person voted against Apple. It needed to be unanimous. I believe the jury voted something like 5-1 in Apple!s favor so the vast majority of jurists understood Apple didn’t use Masimo patents. None of us were on that jury so we need to stop ragging on Apple. 

Apple might need to talk to stock holders to see if they can get backing to tell the UK and EU to take a hike. This could include not selling to the UK or EU. Yes, Apple would take a hit but these governments who want to abuse American products might need to discuss with their citizens the potential for Apple to not provide any products. Who will win? Their citizens or their government?

I've submitted incorrect Maps locations but haven't done anything with businesses. It wouldn't surprise me if an angry customer submitted the information just to get back at the restaurant. I don't know who actually provides the information about businesses to Apple Maps but I notice that not all businesses are listed on Apple Maps so it doesn't really surprise me if a few businesses have been marked incorrectly. It's just like address locations, they aren't always correct while some are nowhere near where they are supposed to be. There needs to be a disclaimer on all mapping software and apps stating that "Information is not always current or correct. Use at your own risk."

quakerotis said:

It's not Apple's, it's Masimo's.

Not necessarily. Check out https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/05/01/apple-watch-trial-endslatest-chapter-of-2-billion-apple-watch-patent-battle-ends-in-mistrial The vote in favor of Apple was 6-1 but for some stupid reason it needed to be unanimous. One juror out of seven doesn't sound like Apple used Masimo's patents. Yes, Masimo has patents on pulse oximeters but so do other patent holders. Masimo also references other patents within their patents. I've always wondered about these patent references. I doubt Masimo was the first and only company to create a medical pulse oximeter, which is not something Apple is including in their Apple Watch. Apple is providing a non-medical pulse oximeter without all the critical testing and accuracy. I bought a home use pulse oximeter for $30, Masimo's go for 10X that amount. There is a difference in what Apple and Masimo are selling. Did Apple actually use the Masimo patents in their entirety or simply use parts of the patents, which seems to be what other companies do. 

Do airlines carry pulse oximeters on-board? Probably not. Do people carry their own pulse oximeters wherever they go? Probably not. Was the woman's life saved because she had a pulse oximeter on her watch, which provided enough information that the cabin crew knew to give her oxygen? Absolutely! Do we credit this to Masimo? Absolutely not!

Alex_V said:

rob53 said:

Good luck Europe. Prepare to be controlled by your government requiring loading of government-sponsored malware tracking your every movement without any need for a warrant. The first third-party app storefront will be controlled by your local police force, requiring every citizen to load government specific software. In many cases you won't even know they're loading monitoring software, you'll be required to load a government app that includes voter ID, driver's license, etc. Everything in one app will be presented as software everyone needs for taxes and every other government process. Guess what's going to also be loaded in the background .... yep, monitoring software so they know where you're at and what you're doing. Have fun!!

You mean, like the commercial malware that Google installs on every computer tracking your every move, reading every email and document, while denying you any privacy at all? Or, do you mean the commercial malware that Facebook uses to track your movements, your social network, likes and dislike, and monitoring your phone and linking your number to your purchases, memberships etc., that is, your life away from the internet. Or, do you mean the commercial cookie hell that was the internet before the EU stepped in and regulated that kak? All of this thanks to your pole-dancing prostitutes that you call ‘representatives’ doing nothing to reign in the most egregious invasions of privacy and attacks on personal freedom being unleashed from the bowels of capitalist Silicon Valley. Is that what you mean?

I didn't say the USA doesn't allow these but you've also made my point. Of course I don't use Google products (I try and shut down all trackers on this website) or Facebook, never have used twitter/X and simply try and stay away from all the websites that do exactly what you say.

avon b7 said:

That already exists basically in Spain: an app called 'My Citizen Folder' where a huge amount of government related information and documentation is bundled up into one place. 

tech_traveller said:

This also exists in India, there is a service called Digilocker. I think it's good, government documents should not be in the hands of private companies such as Apple.

My point exactly. It's already being done.