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  • Qualcomm pushed for iPhone exclusivity in response to $1B incentive payment demand, CEO sa...

    gatorguy said:
    bb-15 said:
    saltyzip said:
    Apple screws suppliers, all big companies do it to some extent, some are just more aggressive than other. Supermarkets push milk farmers to the point they can hardly make any money. Apple killed GT advanced technologies because it couldn't meet apples demands, screwed some other imaging company to although forgot the name.

    Apple is a super aggressive greedy bully, will do whatever it takes to keep generating its billions. Remember they were going super nuclear on android, well that worked out well for them, they lost that war. Apple now trying to screw over Qualcomm, because all they are thinking about is their share price and retaining their ridiculous profit margins.
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    Motorola and Nokia sued Apple first. 
    https://www.cnet.com/news/this-time-motorola-sues-apple-over-patents/
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-files-patent-suit-against-apple-over-iphones/ ;
    Technically accurate but effectively wrong based on this. http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/08/proof-apple-attacked-motorola-not-other.html
    No I’m not “effectively” wrong. I have a different conclusion based on the clear facts vs. a hypothesis by Florian Mueller about the confidential thinking of Apple and Motorola.

    Here is a quote from the Mueller article you linked to. 

    <b>”I have meanwhile seen articles in which certain experts -- who are experts in some areas, but likely spend less time perusing Android patent suit court filings than I do -- claimed that Motorola was the aggressor and Apple "forced to defend itself", which is plain wrong.”</b>
    http://www.fosspatents.com/2011/08/proof-apple-attacked-motorola-not-other.html

    Mueller argues that he is right and other experts are wrong because he spends more time pursuing Android court filings. 
    Is Mueller an attorney/patent attorney? No. 
    He is a tech consultant currently working for Microsoft and Oracle. 
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_Müller_(author)

    Mueller is speculating about Apple’s and Motorola’s behavior at this time. Again from the linked article;

    <b>”
    It's highly probable that Apple had a lawsuit in the making but had to change plans after the DJ action in terms of which patents to assert in which court.”</b>

    “Highly probable” does not = an established fact. 
    I do not know what Apple’s management / lawyers were thinking at the time because no outside observer was in the room when these matters were being discussed by Apple. No clear source about what was Apple’s timeframe at the time. It’s possible that Apple was waiting for Motorola to make the first movie. 
    - I am open to accepting a statement (with citation) from Apple saying they intended to sue Motorola first.
    Second, I would need to see a statement from Motorola that they had no intention to sue Apple. And that they only sued Apple first because they were afraid that Apple would sue them.
    Third, to support Mueller’s reasoning a statement from Motorola is needed that they sued quickly because they wanted to get a preferable venue. 
    On the venue issue Mueller brings up the East Texas court district. 

    <b>”
    Companies do this frequently to avoid such venues as East Texas.”</b>

    But Apple doesn’t go to the East Texas District to file patent lawsuits. Motorola should not have had a fear that Apple would do that. This reasoning by Mueller undercuts his argument. 

    - I am not going to accept the speculations by Mueller in this case, over other experts, as absolute fact. 
    radarthekatwatto_cobra
  • Qualcomm pushed for iPhone exclusivity in response to $1B incentive payment demand, CEO sa...

    Latko said:
    bluefire1 said:
    I really hope this conflict can be resolved sooner rather than later if for no other reason that when it comes to iPhones, Qualcomm  chips are far superior to Intels.
    So what Apple now got from their “diversification strategy”: commercial bans / legal issues with QualComm for $30 (already passed onto customers in $100...300 overpriced handsets), LTE/Cellular issues, to be solved with numerous undocumented stability iOS updates, no modem supplier diversification, and at least 1 year delay for 5G.
    (which I hardly care about, but can be deadly harmful in a technology-push market where they struggle to differentiate themselves)
    Using their extensive outsourcing experience with Intel & lagging MacBook cpu’s...
    NOT
    Why am I willing to pay $100 to $300 more for an Apple handset? 

    1. Privacy; Google makes most of its money from ads based on massive data mining. Google’s mines data from “free” services like Gmail, Chrome, Google Maps & Google Drive for ads.
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/020515/business-google.asp
    https://bgr.com/2016/02/11/why-facebook-and-google-mine-your-data-and-why-theres-nothing-you-can-do-to-stop-it/ ;

    This making money off of people’s private information allows Google to give away Android to OEMs for free.
    Result; cheaper Android phones based on the lack of privacy.
    - Apple does very little data mining. Outside of App Store searches and the News app, Apple does not mine user data and protects user privacy.
    Apple needs to make its money another way. 
    Apple by contrast makes most of its money from hardware sales especially from the iPhone.
    https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/04/08/how-apple-inc-makes-most-of-its-money.aspx

    Result; Apple needs to charge more for its hardware. 

    2. Service and support; Apple has top notch customer service and tech support. Apple extends the life of its iOS devices with OS updates many more years compared with Android OEMs. 
    radarthekatairnerdwatto_cobra
  • Qualcomm pushed for iPhone exclusivity in response to $1B incentive payment demand, CEO sa...

    saltyzip said:
    Apple screws suppliers, all big companies do it to some extent, some are just more aggressive than other. Supermarkets push milk farmers to the point they can hardly make any money. Apple killed GT advanced technologies because it couldn't meet apples demands, screwed some other imaging company to although forgot the name.

    Apple is a super aggressive greedy bully, will do whatever it takes to keep generating its billions. Remember they were going super nuclear on android, well that worked out well for them, they lost that war. Apple now trying to screw over Qualcomm, because all they are thinking about is their share price and retaining their ridiculous profit margins.
    This comment reminds me of the many people on YouTube who think the earth is flat. 
    ** First; The argument takes irrelevant information about milk prices, only one failed tech supplier and concludes that all Apple suppliers are being screwed over (“hardly make any money”).

    * Fact; Samsung Electronics is a major supplier to Apple.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Electronics
    - Someone must prove that Samsung Electronics’ panel and semiconductor divisions “can hardly make any money” because of Apple.
    - Of course no one can prove this charge about all Apple suppliers because the accusation is based on uninformed nonsense.

    ** Second; the above comment makes a statement by Jobs about Android to conclude that Apple made war on all Android OEMs. 
    Wrong. 
    * Fact; in the battles between Android OEMs, Apple was not the only company to start filing patent lawsuits.
    Motorola and Nokia sued Apple first. 
    https://www.cnet.com/news/this-time-motorola-sues-apple-over-patents/
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-files-patent-suit-against-apple-over-iphones/ ;

    This alone shows that the situation involved several tech companies going after each other and not simply Jobs attacking Android OEMs. 
    And Apple was able to settle with HTC early in the process (2012). That doesn’t fit the claim that Apple started a nuclear / completely destructive war, against Android OEMs. 
    https://www.wired.com/2012/11/apple-and-htc-settlement/
    tmayronnwatto_cobra
  • iPhone XR launch attracted more Android switchers in the U.S. than the iPhone 8 & iPhone X...

    NY1822 said:
    Funny how the other apple focused website has the similar article but their headline is slanted in the opposite direction making the Xr seem like a failure...but with the exact same data


    Most of the tech media trashing Apple gets views / $.
    What is missing from the imo dumb headline you posted is that in 2017 the iPhone 8+ was the biggest screen phone which = more sales.
    in 2018 the XS Max has the biggest screen pulling sales from the XR.

    watto_cobra
  • France to hit Apple, other tech giants with new digital tax in January

    These taxes, only targeted at companies from one nation, are a type of tariff. Several countries have extra tariffs/fees for Apple products.
    These cost barriers are a trade war tactic. They slow down trade and overall will eventually cause a weaker economy with the countries involved.

    entropys