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Foxconn accused of using illegal student labor to build Apple's iPhone X
eriamjh said:Being forced to work an unrelated job to graduate regardless of how you pay them sounds like slavery to me.Shame on anyone who supports this.Whatever problem a person would have for this work practice, it is not slavery. To claim it is slavery (aka human trafficking) is at best disingenuous. At worst it's trolling and the spreading of malicious FUD.* In reality, two things are involved;- An employer threatening an employee to get them to do work.Maybe some people are not aware but threats (firing, blacklisted in an industry) to get employees to do tasks is a common occurrence in the US. I've experienced some of this myself.- Secondly, how student labor is handled. As mentioned above, student workers can have jobs for no pay to get experience.But even more severe, US agriculture can involve very intense work where young children are along side their parents.* Why isn't the use of US agriculture child labor widely reported? Because as noted above, most people don't care.* Also, why aren't harsh working conditions for an Android manufacturer like Samsung widely reported? For instance;In my many debates with Android users who bash Apple, none of them really cared about worker conditions.They certainly weren't going to stop buying their dirt cheap Android phones because of worker abuse. These Android fans didn't want to know about the poor worker conditions of other tech companies. They only wanted to know about reports which made Apple look bad.
Result; the media articles about poor tech labor conditions that are widely reported AFAIK are about Apple. -
iPhone X impresses Windows executive, Android fans but bitter bloggers still hating
cato1040 said:As a reminder to those reading, I did my first post because someone has asking about objective facts. Almost all reviewers (not just bloggers) found FaceID to be imperfect. I prefer the option of both fingerprint and face unlocking, but if FaceID alone works for you, that's great. Also, objectively, the S8 has more screen real estate and a higher screen to body ratio, you can look it up. It goes wider than the iPhone. The iPhone gives the illusion of otherwise, but the numbers don't lie. The S8 also does have a button at the bottom of the screen, it's just hidden behind the screen (apparently it's very well hidden ;D). I'll admit that though the presence of controls is objective, their influence on the user is subjective. I use an iPad, and there's no way I could go back or multitask with it as quickly or as easily as on my S8, but if you're okay with that, that's fine. I also prefer using headphones I don't need to charge without a dongle, but that's me.
I do get your complaint about Samsung being first off the block but I'd rather at least have the option. Don't get me wrong, Android's aren't without fault as demonstrated by the Note 7 and the Pixel 2. The issue is that for better or worse, the iPhone sets the standards, and unless their clients demand better, the standard will remain placid. The quality of the iPhone generally sets the quality of phones in general. (Though Apple does have fantastic service.)
In your first comment you said about certain iPhone users; "want to open the eyes of some iSheep who don't know what they're missing out on."
Since your topic is "objective facts"; You call some people iSheep (an insult), they will insult you back.
1. Your main underlying comparison is between the iPhone as a whole and all Android phones;
You wrote; "they've started falling behind at the iPhone 4 and haven't seemed to be able to recover though most people enamoured by their marketing seem to miss this."
- But then you pull a trick where you only compare the iPhone X with many Android phones.
Besides being irritating to cherry pick the features of several phones against one phone, that leads to multiple strawman arguments.
- Fact; the iPhone X does not equal all iPhones being sold by Apple today.
- You don't like things (or possible problems) about the iPhone X; FaceID, the battery life, working in the cold, the green line, without a home button...; then the customer can get an iPhone 8 Plus.
- You don't like other things; it's expensive, no headphone jack, more breakable iPhone; the customer can get an iPhone 7 Plus or 6S Plus.
(And don't add another strawman that these are slow phones. Several iPhone models are fast compared with Android phones according to real world tests.)
* The fact is that the iPhone customer has options with several different devices to choose from. And that demolishes most of your arguments.
2. Other Android vs iOS issues;
"it has no back button..., they could have switched over to USB C..., iOS gives the user less control over their phone's interface"
These are tech preferences. You care about that, which is your privilege but I don't.
- What do I care about?
- On Ars Technica even Android fans admit compared with iOS; the Android OS update system is a mess, security is inferior, and Google with its advertising model is weaker on privacy for users compared with Apple.
That is often why things like cloud services are cheaper with Google because they are mining all your private data for ads.
- Many Android users report the OS skins slowing down over time. Google Nexus/Pixel can fix some of these problems but in many ways the hardware of those phones is inferior to iPhones.
With my tech preferences; iOS is superior to Android.
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Some iPhone X owners report mystery green lines appearing on displays
freshmaker said:At least it's all the way over on the side I guess, as opposed to down the middle. Apple will replace it of course, just might take month or two for them to have adequate inventory to do so
* Also, keeping this in perspective, let's look at a competitor, the highly rated Pixel 2 XL and its screen.
"...the Pixel 2 XL... Its display, however, has been widely criticised for a host of reasons, including washed out colors, significant blue shift when viewed at an angle, lines of dead or colored pixels, graininess, and light bleed, just to name a few...
multiple users have been complaining that the Pixel 2 XL's screen will occasionally flash when locking or unlocking the device."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/08/pixel-2-xl-screens-flashing-locking-unlocking/
"one of our Pixel 2 XL review units, in use for about a week, is already seeing some pretty crazy levels of burn-in."
https://www.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-xl-screen-burn
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SquareTrade iPhone X drop-test video disagrees with iFixit's repairability assessment
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Early iPhone X video roundups examine build quality, Animoji, gestures
newtonrj said:Okay, YouTube as a marketing vector, got it. But wouldn't it make sense to not publicly fire employees whose daughter does the same thing. I get that she (and he) were not part of the marketing community, but insn't that just what AAPL wanted with its multiple reviews on YouTube, a viral hit? Her hit count was above 3.7M views for her apology https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/30/apple-reportedly-fires-engineer-whose-daughter-shot-iphone-x-video-from-the-apple-campus/
-RJ
That is a violation of not only the Apple NDA but could lead being fired at many companies which would not want confidential co-worker information to be released.
- I don't see that problem being reported with other people who have shown their iPhone X in the wild.