You've seemed to have changed the context of the conversation. I'm not talking about the stability of the underlying code. We were talking about the OS having the same experience across different hardware manufacturers.
This is because the context was not clear from your post. You named it wrong. OK, we were talking rather about portability than about stability. Seemingly, Windows beats Unices in that domain. They just have more resources, than anyone else, to assure that.
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Originally Posted by TenoBell
The point is that Windows is Windows no matter who you buy your computer from. Mel's point is that Android will not be the same from each manufacturer, so there will be no true Android.
I just repeat, there is actually no requirement for Android to be portable. It's the base for poor man. You don't have resources to launch your phone in reasonable timeframe, you then take Android and make it quick and dirty. Then you improve your future phones.
I'm sure the Droid will have solid first quarter numbers, its essentially the best phone Verizon sells. I wouldn't compare Droid sales against 3G sales. I would compare Droid sales against the original iPhone sales.
The original iPhones sold one carrier in one country at full price. Its sales were roughly around these same numbers. Since that time the iPhone became cheaper and has continued to develop and mature as a platform.
What would they do with the Droid to match this same type of growth to continue sales growth?
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Originally Posted by AsianBob
Looks like we got some solid numbers!
Basically like I've been saying, in between the 100,000 "Verizon store thumb guess" and 400,000 "what about the addition of sales from other resellers?" marks. Considering that the Droid only sold in the US on Verizon (as opposed to the 8 countries the 3GS sold in), I'd say that's really impressive.
I'm sure the Droid will have solid first quarter numbers, its essentially the best phone Verizon sells. I wouldn't compare Droid sales against 3G sales. I would compare Droid sales against the original iPhone sales.
The original iPhones sold one carrier in one country at full price. Its sales were roughly around these same numbers. Since that time the iPhone became cheaper and has continued to develop and mature as a platform.
What would they do with the Droid to match this same type of growth to continue sales growth?
I would assume the exact same thing. Cut the prices and introduce hardware/software fixes as time goes along. We all know that the slide-out keyboard can definitely be done better. Maybe up the screen to AMOLED too.
And the Droid was released with 12,000 apps to back it up. With those impressive sales figures, I can only think that the Android platform will draw more and more developers. The name (Droid and Android) is out there now and people will continue to buy Droid-named devices as long as Verizon keeps naming the successors that.
Basically like I've been saying, in between the 100,000 "Verizon store thumb guess" and 400,000 "what about the addition of sales from other resellers?" marks. Considering that the Droid only sold in the US on Verizon (as opposed to the 8 countries the 3GS sold in), I'd say that's really impressive.
I'll be interested to see how the milestone (Motorola's name for the international droid) does.
That's my point with each new iPhone Apple did not simply cut prices and add hardware/software fixes. Apple add major new features to the platform that increased sales. A better keyboard and screen are not really enough.
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Originally Posted by AsianBob
I would assume the exact same thing. Cut the prices and introduce hardware/software fixes as time goes along. We all know that the slide-out keyboard can definitely be done better. Maybe up the screen to AMOLED too.
Fact is, iPhone users have bigger c*cks te Droid users.
Fact is, iPhone users can p*ss more, and farther, than Droid users.
These numbers prove it.
(And for the sarcasm-impaired readers, I'm not serious. I'm making a statement that these numbers are unimportant in deciding the relative merits of the two devices.)
That's my point with each new iPhone Apple did not simply cut prices and add hardware/software fixes. Apple add major new features to the platform that increased sales. A better keyboard and screen are not really enough.
I fail to see how that's any different than what Android will do to improve. Those "major new features" on the iPhone were actually needed items. MMS, copy/paste, video camera in the 3GS, 3G radio in the 3G, etc. That's pretty much hardware/software fixes too. Has the screen increased in resolution? Or maybe the AMOLED that we all hoped for? Or a thin slider with a physical keyboard?
The Droid and most Android-based phones that are coming out already have those features and all the hardware already far exceeds anything the iPhone currently has. Xperia X10 has a 1 Ghz Snapdragon processor (sucks it's running Cupcake at release...) and others have 1080p output. But it's really just improving the Android OS from here on out.
Hell, the apps that are on the iPhone have already started porting over to Android. Remeber the Bump contact information transfer app that was shown on the iPhone commercials? Android has it. And it works between Android and iPhone versions to boot!
One thing you forget is that Android is not just another phone. It's an OS movement that has already started trickling into other electronics fields (tablets, picture frames, remotes, home theater etc). I wouldn't be surprised if eventually all of them end up interconnected somehow. Use the Bump app to send a group of pictures to an Adroid picture frame without having to deal with memory cards.
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Originally Posted by iGenius
Fact is, iPhone users have bigger c*cks te Droid users.
Fact is, iPhone users can p*ss more, and farther, than Droid users.
These numbers prove it.
(And for the sarcasm-impaired readers, I'm not serious. I'm making a statement that these numbers are unimportant in deciding the relative merits of the two devices.)
Not directly important, but the more Android sells, the more development for it. More people owning the devices means more and better apps/accessories which means better devices in the future.
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You've seemed to have changed the context of the conversation. I'm not talking about the stability of the underlying code. We were talking about the OS having the same experience across different hardware manufacturers.
This is because the context was not clear from your post. You named it wrong. OK, we were talking rather about portability than about stability. Seemingly, Windows beats Unices in that domain. They just have more resources, than anyone else, to assure that.
The point is that Windows is Windows no matter who you buy your computer from. Mel's point is that Android will not be the same from each manufacturer, so there will be no true Android.
I just repeat, there is actually no requirement for Android to be portable. It's the base for poor man. You don't have resources to launch your phone in reasonable timeframe, you then take Android and make it quick and dirty. Then you improve your future phones.
The original iPhones sold one carrier in one country at full price. Its sales were roughly around these same numbers. Since that time the iPhone became cheaper and has continued to develop and mature as a platform.
What would they do with the Droid to match this same type of growth to continue sales growth?
Looks like we got some solid numbers!
Basically like I've been saying, in between the 100,000 "Verizon store thumb guess" and 400,000 "what about the addition of sales from other resellers?" marks. Considering that the Droid only sold in the US on Verizon (as opposed to the 8 countries the 3GS sold in), I'd say that's really impressive.
I'm sure the Droid will have solid first quarter numbers, its essentially the best phone Verizon sells. I wouldn't compare Droid sales against 3G sales. I would compare Droid sales against the original iPhone sales.
The original iPhones sold one carrier in one country at full price. Its sales were roughly around these same numbers. Since that time the iPhone became cheaper and has continued to develop and mature as a platform.
What would they do with the Droid to match this same type of growth to continue sales growth?
I would assume the exact same thing. Cut the prices and introduce hardware/software fixes as time goes along. We all know that the slide-out keyboard can definitely be done better. Maybe up the screen to AMOLED too.
And the Droid was released with 12,000 apps to back it up. With those impressive sales figures, I can only think that the Android platform will draw more and more developers. The name (Droid and Android) is out there now and people will continue to buy Droid-named devices as long as Verizon keeps naming the successors that.
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Just released in Germany, no voice with the Maps but it does have "pinch to zoom".
Looks like we got some solid numbers!
http://blog.flurry.com/bid/28266/Dro...e-Week-1-Sales
Basically like I've been saying, in between the 100,000 "Verizon store thumb guess" and 400,000 "what about the addition of sales from other resellers?" marks. Considering that the Droid only sold in the US on Verizon (as opposed to the 8 countries the 3GS sold in), I'd say that's really impressive.
I'll be interested to see how the milestone (Motorola's name for the international droid) does.
I would assume the exact same thing. Cut the prices and introduce hardware/software fixes as time goes along. We all know that the slide-out keyboard can definitely be done better. Maybe up the screen to AMOLED too.
Fact is, iPhone users can p*ss more, and farther, than Droid users.
These numbers prove it.
(And for the sarcasm-impaired readers, I'm not serious. I'm making a statement that these numbers are unimportant in deciding the relative merits of the two devices.)
That's my point with each new iPhone Apple did not simply cut prices and add hardware/software fixes. Apple add major new features to the platform that increased sales. A better keyboard and screen are not really enough.
I fail to see how that's any different than what Android will do to improve. Those "major new features" on the iPhone were actually needed items. MMS, copy/paste, video camera in the 3GS, 3G radio in the 3G, etc. That's pretty much hardware/software fixes too. Has the screen increased in resolution? Or maybe the AMOLED that we all hoped for? Or a thin slider with a physical keyboard?
The Droid and most Android-based phones that are coming out already have those features and all the hardware already far exceeds anything the iPhone currently has. Xperia X10 has a 1 Ghz Snapdragon processor (sucks it's running Cupcake at release...) and others have 1080p output. But it's really just improving the Android OS from here on out.
Hell, the apps that are on the iPhone have already started porting over to Android. Remeber the Bump contact information transfer app that was shown on the iPhone commercials? Android has it. And it works between Android and iPhone versions to boot!
One thing you forget is that Android is not just another phone. It's an OS movement that has already started trickling into other electronics fields (tablets, picture frames, remotes, home theater etc). I wouldn't be surprised if eventually all of them end up interconnected somehow. Use the Bump app to send a group of pictures to an Adroid picture frame without having to deal with memory cards.
Fact is, iPhone users have bigger c*cks te Droid users.
Fact is, iPhone users can p*ss more, and farther, than Droid users.
These numbers prove it.
(And for the sarcasm-impaired readers, I'm not serious. I'm making a statement that these numbers are unimportant in deciding the relative merits of the two devices.)
Not directly important, but the more Android sells, the more development for it. More people owning the devices means more and better apps/accessories which means better devices in the future.