OBVIOUSLY water applies differently than smoke residue! Why even mention water?? LOL, you actually brought up water intoxication. What does that have to do with servicing hardware?
What do OSHA regulations say about "smoke residue"? Nada. Zip. Zilch. The regulations concern concentrations in air.
Water can be toxic just as nicotine can be toxic. Obviously.
Dude. Have you ever been to smomeones house, smoke free and have a look at their fans. Olooks just like that. As I said earilier l, it's been reported than living in LA during the summer is like 3 times WORSE than smoking. I mean, crap, they have hazard day ALERTS TO STAY INDOORS. So living in LA IN THE SUMMER is like smoking. Nice
I meanm, I've seen cars that sit for two days and it's covered in soot iike there was a fire during the summer. And then of course there are pets. Where and when dId this happen anyway????
Most production lots and cabanas have smoke everywhere and especially the hollywood hiils.
I totally agree - this is all bush*t. That picture could be from living in NYC. This sounds like more AL Gore bullsh*t.
Never thought there would come a day a would decide never to buy a mac again but that day has come. When I paid my MacBook Pro they didn't say they couldn't accept my money because it was a biohazard so I wonder why they would consider my notebook a biohazard.
A big fuck you to Steve Jobs! What's next? People who eat meat can't send in their Macs for repair anymore?
AppleCare is not accidental damage insurance. AppleCare states that it will honor service for failures attributed to manufacturing defects. This alone disqualifies repairs being covered by AppleCare. Nicotine creates a tar film on the internal components of computers contributing to their failure, get a tech job and see this for yourself if you're in disbelief.
Additionally, AppleCare Protection Plan is not marketed as an accidental coverage or even as a warranty. The term warranty requires companies to honor service terms as is. By using the words protection plan, terms and fees can change at any time. If you do not like your AppleCare service you can contact Apple and they will cancel the remaining term of your protection plan and refund you a prorated amount.
Enough with the tone of entitlement. Read what you're buying into. Accidental insurance, which APP is not, have rarely been profitable for companies or priced reasonably because people can break or damage what they want and get a replacement. This makes no business sense to offer.*
I have to side with Apple here. Some of these smokers are such filthy slobs that their homes and everything in them are coated by a layer of tar and ash. Their white Macbooks are now yellow, their fans are caked with a blend of tar, dust, ash, and cat hair. Food and Lord knows what else is spattered all over the keyboard and screen. I would definitely deem this computer untouchable at any cost. A request for service would be followed by a disbelieving stare and an "Are you effing kidding me?" Let it go to trial. Just make sure that the jury sees the evidence.
And that's just OSHA my friends. Wait until Obamacare is shoved down our throats what with all it's "shalls" and "wills" obey the government or else the government will fine and/or incarcerate!
I'm sure the Welfare/Red States will all be able to opt out, and therefore remain the bastions of patriotic freedom where people drag their obese children to WalMart to proudly buy flags made in China and wave them in support of "the troups" they sent to die by the thousands so the US could spend $4 TRILLION dollars sponsoring a cycle of war and rebuilding projects in Iraq that benefitted Bush corporate allies.
Thank Jebus that the US is last in education, has crumbling infrastructure, and broken health care, while Bush gave a $1.4 trillion windfall to the super rich and $1 trillion to Wall Street frauds with no strings attached.
And blame Obama that there's no jobs and a rotten economy now, and suggest that the $1 trillion in stimulus is why the US is in debt, not the aforementioned $6.6 trillion Bush diverted from public funds to his ultra rich base while letting the US become the shame of the world.
Oh wait, what does solving health care have to do with Apple refusing to fix a machine covered in poisonous tar?
I recall working for a company where a vandal peed on our laptops, and Dell refused to fix them under warranty because they were deemed a hasmat risk. Pretty obviously reasonable unless you are a teabagger.
Because your parroting all of his don't-regulate-business, free-market-solves-everything crap.
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Try again, your pseudo-intellectual reflexes are inadequate, unwind and do some better thinking.
I am an actual intellectual. My mistake was in assuming that you had a better understanding of politics than you do.
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Comparing smokers with pedophiles, wife beaters, rapists, etc. is pretty clueless.
I didn't compare them to any of those people. I just showed the stupidity of your "logic" in which you imply that we shouldn't say bad things about smokers because some smokers also did good things. Again, I overestimated you.
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Non-smokers = you & I.
Maybe you've done nothing to be proud of, never accomplished anything of significance, but that would be an area where we differ.
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Smokers = Mark Twain & Albert Einstein.
So what? If I can find four pedophiles, six rapists, and someone who tortured animals that smoked, would that mean have any bearing on whether smoking should be viewed in a positive light?
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So you think that the government should tell people which jobs are unsafe?
Yes.
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Shouldn't mine workers decide if their pay is adequate to work in a certain condition?
No.
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Do mine workers want to pay more in taxes for the government to butt in, or would they rather have more pay for hazardous work?
I don't care what they want. The fact that a mining company can find economically desperate people does not mean that the government should let the company send those people down without respirators, poisonous gas detectors, hearing protection, and eye protection.
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I'll let you spin on that for a while, ginger pills are supposed to help with the effects of dizziness.
You act like you said something profound when all you did was expose your failure to reason and think critically.
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And those child labor laws, how effective were those?
Very. It's why McDonalds and Walmart can't have 12 year olds working 12 hour days seven days a week.
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I say Amen. Smokers hate it when other point out how foul and disgusting their habit actually is.
Bottom line: smoking makes you smell. Wake up and smell the ashtray that you are.
I have to side with Apple here. Some of these smokers are such filthy slobs that their homes and everything in them are coated by a layer of tar and ash. Their white Macbooks are now yellow, their fans are caked with a blend of tar, dust, ash, and cat hair. Food and Lord knows what else is spattered all over the keyboard and screen. I would definitely deem this computer untouchable at any cost. A request for service would be followed by a disbelieving stare and an "Are you effing kidding me?" Let it go to trial. Just make sure that the jury sees the evidence.
What does dust and cat hair have to do with smoking? What if you don't smoke but live alongside a freeway? Is all that exhaust the owners blame? Not all of us can live in a antiseptic Dyson house. This yet another example of Apple snobbery.
I totally agree - this is all bush*t. That picture could be from living in NYC. This sounds like more AL Gore bullsh*t.
I knew techstud was a teabagger! Maybe it's Palin in between her tweets and facebook updates insulting the 19 year old boy who knocked up her spread eagle daughter. She has lots of free time now that she quit her job and took credit for a book ghostwritten somebody else, so it makes sense.
What does dust and cat hair have to do with smoking? What if you don't smoke but live alongside a freeway? Is all that exhaust the owners blame? Not all of us can live in a antiseptic Dyson house. This yet another example of Apple snobbery.
Dust and cat hair have to do with being a slob. Not all smokers are slobs. I am sure that Applecare has serviced their fair share of non-yellow Macbooks owned by smokers who are not slobs and will continue to do so in the future. Keeping a clean home does not make you a snob. Living in filth does make you a slob.
What does dust and cat hair have to do with smoking?
Cigarette smoke leaves a residue that causes things like dust and cat hair to adhere to inside of the computer. Also, the other poster was alluding to the fact that people who smoke are often disgusting, dirty slobs. When someone's home reeks of tobacco smoke and has ashtrays with ashes and saliva-soaked cigarette butts lying around, it's not surprising to learn that cleanliness is not their top priority.
Wow! You caught it twice? I thought after having it once that you built up the antibodies or imunity for it?
Yes you do, that's why the second time it's been not as severe as the first.
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If you can catch it more than once then doesn't that negate the shot?
Yes as I have built up the anti-bodies from the first instance, but it takes some time apparently for the body to build the defense back up if it's hit again. It took a long time the first time, I should have gone in for help, but it messes with your mind and is rather low key at first so you just think you'll get over it.
That it laid me out for three days the second time around goes to show this is no bug to screw with and a drug resistant version is making the rounds now.
So everyone should get the shot regardless, it's just a harmless version of the real thing, but it builds up the anti-bodies so it's not so bad if they get the real thing.
The reason perhaps certain people are dying is because their bodies fail to build the right anti-bodies for some reason or another.
Cigarette smoke leaves a residue that causes things like dust and cat hair to adhere to inside of the computer. Also, the other poster was alluding to the fact that people who smoke are often disgusting, dirty slobs. When someone's home reeks of tobacco smoke and has ashtrays with ashes and saliva-soaked cigarette butts lying around, it's not surprising to learn that cleanliness is not their top priority.
Cigarette smoke and dust adhere to many things just not cigarette smoke and by lumping all together it gives that impression. Also, there are many non- smokers that are dirty filthy disgusting slobs- don't generalize. Is Barrack Obama a filthy dirty slob? There are many respectable smokers.
Boy do you watch to much CNN or what. I don't smoke pot but the paper companies in the late 1800s saw hemp as a threat, so Tindale or Hammermill outlawed it. I also have an under cover narc friend one is narc, the other DEA, drugs are made illegal because you cannot patient a plant, opium, where all the morphine to codeine started, so since you can't patient it, outlaw it. Who wins? The pharmacutical companies.
Read about prohibition. How it created the mob. Go back further and you'll see tin cans that read for a busy mom and baby, opium candy to help you relax and thatbwas less than 100 years ago.
Go to college. Learn. Read. Absorb. Let your mind be open for a change. I like to use food as an anlogy. What does it feel like to be hungry? You can't explain it right. But you eat and feel satisfied. Same with smokers. I used to be one. But again. There are way to many rules in this country. O remember visiting holland. It was beautiful and we went up this windmill and saw a skull and cross bones. That's it. Meaning you can go around the rope but you could also die. In the US, that display would be off limits, protected by 5 feet of glass and unresponsible parents allow laws to be changed due to their bad patenting and we all pay. You'll see. Someday it will affect you.
It's probably too late for you to read this since it's Sunday now and the thread is long but what a lot of BS.
Your whole post could be boiled down to ... "chill." Why even bother writing this junk?
- There are "too many rules" in the USA? The USA is one of the least rule dominated countries on earth. Most people would say the exact opposite of you and think that the USA could actually *use* a few "rules."
- Smoking is like eating? Give me a break.
- Prohibition has nothing to do with anything we are talking about and no one, least of all me has said that smoking should be illegal altogether. My words were "illegal in public."
- It's you that needs to "go to College" ("University" in the rest of the world), and open your mind to some actual facts. Your DEA friends are full of it, and you don't seem to know anything about it either. All you got is some BS conspiracy theory about "patients" (patents?). I bet you believe in Alien Abductions as well.
For your information, I'm a University graduate that has read a lot more about all of this than you seem to have. I am also a former smoker and have a lot of real life first hand experience with drug addicts. Two people in my family have died from smoking.
The sad thing about smokers, even those that claim to like it and do it because "they want to," is that they all quit eventually. Every last one of them that doesn't get run over by a bus eventually quits even if it's only on their death beds, and every last one of them regrets not quitting sooner.
I know I'm being mean to the smokers by being so strident, but hey that's the only thing that actually works with drug addicts. Tough love, and shaming. For anyone thinking of quitting, all the commiseration and crutches in the world won't get you anywhere, but that will. Smokers are drug addicts and need to feel ashamed that they are so that they get up the gumption to quit.
After reading through many of the posts here it seems there's probably a 50/50 split for and against the consumer here so to throw my wait to the "Against the consumer" side I too have worked on many a machine that had damage due to smoking. I too have been affected health wise when working on machines (although not from the smokey machines).
Computers pick up a great deal of crud, especially if they've been sitting on the floor. One of our customers has machines in each of their branches and they are all tower cases sitting on the floor. On numerous occasions I have actually got the flue from these machines because of inhaling the dust. I've used masks but they are bulky and get in the way of doing the job effectively.
Also, believe it or not but smoke can spring a hard drive. If you don't know what I'm talking about think of the shavings from a metal lathe. That can happen to your hard drive mostly when you get a head crash but it's been proven that the same thing can happen because of a single grain of cigarette smoke. The distances between the platters and the heads are very small so if cigarette smoke got in there say bye bye to your data.
Smoking is such a horrible habit and I personally have never smoked even a single cigarette in my life but then I had the luxury of seeing what happens to smokers with one of my nanas dying of lung cancer, and all my other grand parents having smoking related illnesses mostly asthma and emphysema right up until they died. It just never seemed worth it.
I fully support Apple on this call. There's a reason why computers are built in vacuums and you want to go and destroy all that by smoking in the same room as your computer?
I hate smokers. Why should I have to breath in their UNFILTERED smoke, inhaling 400 different chemicals ALL harmful to the human body merely because you're too weak willed to give up and you need a fix? Why should MY clothes smell of disgusting cigarette smoke? Why does no one pull up a smoker when they smoke within 3 metres of a door when it's illegal to do so? Why should we computer engineers be forced to work on disgusting computers all because someone needs their fix but needs to do work as well?
Nope, sorry but frankly Apple's got the right attitude here. They're protecting their workers which is more than can be said of many other employees. Stick it to them Apple.
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OBVIOUSLY water applies differently than smoke residue! Why even mention water?? LOL, you actually brought up water intoxication. What does that have to do with servicing hardware?
What do OSHA regulations say about "smoke residue"? Nada. Zip. Zilch. The regulations concern concentrations in air.
Water can be toxic just as nicotine can be toxic. Obviously.
It's a shame really. .........
Law laws and more laws. People. Wake up. Our civil liberties are being taken away each day and trust me, one day it WILL AFFECT YOU.
It's too late. (Trust me, I am no right-wing nut; indeed, far from it).
Bottom line: smoking makes you smell. Wake up and smell the ashtray that you are.
Morons.
"Many things" ??? ... Such as?
A beach house, use in a cellar, etc,etc, etc, etc . Use your brain- it's not that difficult.
Dude. Have you ever been to smomeones house, smoke free and have a look at their fans. Olooks just like that. As I said earilier l, it's been reported than living in LA during the summer is like 3 times WORSE than smoking. I mean, crap, they have hazard day ALERTS TO STAY INDOORS. So living in LA IN THE SUMMER is like smoking. Nice
I meanm, I've seen cars that sit for two days and it's covered in soot iike there was a fire during the summer. And then of course there are pets. Where and when dId this happen anyway????
Most production lots and cabanas have smoke everywhere and especially the hollywood hiils.
I totally agree - this is all bush*t. That picture could be from living in NYC. This sounds like more AL Gore bullsh*t.
Never thought there would come a day a would decide never to buy a mac again but that day has come. When I paid my MacBook Pro they didn't say they couldn't accept my money because it was a biohazard so I wonder why they would consider my notebook a biohazard.
A big fuck you to Steve Jobs! What's next? People who eat meat can't send in their Macs for repair anymore?
Just buy a new liver. Not that big a deal.
Additionally, AppleCare Protection Plan is not marketed as an accidental coverage or even as a warranty. The term warranty requires companies to honor service terms as is. By using the words protection plan, terms and fees can change at any time. If you do not like your AppleCare service you can contact Apple and they will cancel the remaining term of your protection plan and refund you a prorated amount.
Enough with the tone of entitlement. Read what you're buying into. Accidental insurance, which APP is not, have rarely been profitable for companies or priced reasonably because people can break or damage what they want and get a replacement. This makes no business sense to offer.*
And that's just OSHA my friends. Wait until Obamacare is shoved down our throats what with all it's "shalls" and "wills" obey the government or else the government will fine and/or incarcerate!
I'm sure the Welfare/Red States will all be able to opt out, and therefore remain the bastions of patriotic freedom where people drag their obese children to WalMart to proudly buy flags made in China and wave them in support of "the troups" they sent to die by the thousands so the US could spend $4 TRILLION dollars sponsoring a cycle of war and rebuilding projects in Iraq that benefitted Bush corporate allies.
Thank Jebus that the US is last in education, has crumbling infrastructure, and broken health care, while Bush gave a $1.4 trillion windfall to the super rich and $1 trillion to Wall Street frauds with no strings attached.
And blame Obama that there's no jobs and a rotten economy now, and suggest that the $1 trillion in stimulus is why the US is in debt, not the aforementioned $6.6 trillion Bush diverted from public funds to his ultra rich base while letting the US become the shame of the world.
Oh wait, what does solving health care have to do with Apple refusing to fix a machine covered in poisonous tar?
I recall working for a company where a vandal peed on our laptops, and Dell refused to fix them under warranty because they were deemed a hasmat risk. Pretty obviously reasonable unless you are a teabagger.
Where did you get Ron Paul?
Because your parroting all of his don't-regulate-business, free-market-solves-everything crap.
Try again, your pseudo-intellectual reflexes are inadequate, unwind and do some better thinking.
I am an actual intellectual. My mistake was in assuming that you had a better understanding of politics than you do.
Comparing smokers with pedophiles, wife beaters, rapists, etc. is pretty clueless.
I didn't compare them to any of those people. I just showed the stupidity of your "logic" in which you imply that we shouldn't say bad things about smokers because some smokers also did good things. Again, I overestimated you.
Non-smokers = you & I.
Maybe you've done nothing to be proud of, never accomplished anything of significance, but that would be an area where we differ.
Smokers = Mark Twain & Albert Einstein.
So what? If I can find four pedophiles, six rapists, and someone who tortured animals that smoked, would that mean have any bearing on whether smoking should be viewed in a positive light?
So you think that the government should tell people which jobs are unsafe?
Yes.
Shouldn't mine workers decide if their pay is adequate to work in a certain condition?
No.
Do mine workers want to pay more in taxes for the government to butt in, or would they rather have more pay for hazardous work?
I don't care what they want. The fact that a mining company can find economically desperate people does not mean that the government should let the company send those people down without respirators, poisonous gas detectors, hearing protection, and eye protection.
I'll let you spin on that for a while, ginger pills are supposed to help with the effects of dizziness.
You act like you said something profound when all you did was expose your failure to reason and think critically.
And those child labor laws, how effective were those?
Very. It's why McDonalds and Walmart can't have 12 year olds working 12 hour days seven days a week.
I say Amen. Smokers hate it when other point out how foul and disgusting their habit actually is.
Bottom line: smoking makes you smell. Wake up and smell the ashtray that you are.
Morons.
Thank you, gatormantn!
I have to side with Apple here. Some of these smokers are such filthy slobs that their homes and everything in them are coated by a layer of tar and ash. Their white Macbooks are now yellow, their fans are caked with a blend of tar, dust, ash, and cat hair. Food and Lord knows what else is spattered all over the keyboard and screen. I would definitely deem this computer untouchable at any cost. A request for service would be followed by a disbelieving stare and an "Are you effing kidding me?" Let it go to trial. Just make sure that the jury sees the evidence.
What does dust and cat hair have to do with smoking? What if you don't smoke but live alongside a freeway? Is all that exhaust the owners blame? Not all of us can live in a antiseptic Dyson house. This yet another example of Apple snobbery.
I totally agree - this is all bush*t. That picture could be from living in NYC. This sounds like more AL Gore bullsh*t.
I knew techstud was a teabagger! Maybe it's Palin in between her tweets and facebook updates insulting the 19 year old boy who knocked up her spread eagle daughter. She has lots of free time now that she quit her job and took credit for a book ghostwritten somebody else, so it makes sense.
What does dust and cat hair have to do with smoking? What if you don't smoke but live alongside a freeway? Is all that exhaust the owners blame? Not all of us can live in a antiseptic Dyson house. This yet another example of Apple snobbery.
Dust and cat hair have to do with being a slob. Not all smokers are slobs. I am sure that Applecare has serviced their fair share of non-yellow Macbooks owned by smokers who are not slobs and will continue to do so in the future. Keeping a clean home does not make you a snob. Living in filth does make you a slob.
What does dust and cat hair have to do with smoking?
Cigarette smoke leaves a residue that causes things like dust and cat hair to adhere to inside of the computer. Also, the other poster was alluding to the fact that people who smoke are often disgusting, dirty slobs. When someone's home reeks of tobacco smoke and has ashtrays with ashes and saliva-soaked cigarette butts lying around, it's not surprising to learn that cleanliness is not their top priority.
Wow! You caught it twice? I thought after having it once that you built up the antibodies or imunity for it?
Yes you do, that's why the second time it's been not as severe as the first.
If you can catch it more than once then doesn't that negate the shot?
Yes as I have built up the anti-bodies from the first instance, but it takes some time apparently for the body to build the defense back up if it's hit again. It took a long time the first time, I should have gone in for help, but it messes with your mind and is rather low key at first so you just think you'll get over it.
That it laid me out for three days the second time around goes to show this is no bug to screw with and a drug resistant version is making the rounds now.
So everyone should get the shot regardless, it's just a harmless version of the real thing, but it builds up the anti-bodies so it's not so bad if they get the real thing.
The reason perhaps certain people are dying is because their bodies fail to build the right anti-bodies for some reason or another.
Cigarette smoke leaves a residue that causes things like dust and cat hair to adhere to inside of the computer. Also, the other poster was alluding to the fact that people who smoke are often disgusting, dirty slobs. When someone's home reeks of tobacco smoke and has ashtrays with ashes and saliva-soaked cigarette butts lying around, it's not surprising to learn that cleanliness is not their top priority.
Cigarette smoke and dust adhere to many things just not cigarette smoke and by lumping all together it gives that impression. Also, there are many non- smokers that are dirty filthy disgusting slobs- don't generalize. Is Barrack Obama a filthy dirty slob? There are many respectable smokers.
Boy do you watch to much CNN or what. I don't smoke pot but the paper companies in the late 1800s saw hemp as a threat, so Tindale or Hammermill outlawed it. I also have an under cover narc friend one is narc, the other DEA, drugs are made illegal because you cannot patient a plant, opium, where all the morphine to codeine started, so since you can't patient it, outlaw it. Who wins? The pharmacutical companies.
Read about prohibition. How it created the mob. Go back further and you'll see tin cans that read for a busy mom and baby, opium candy to help you relax and thatbwas less than 100 years ago.
Go to college. Learn. Read. Absorb. Let your mind be open for a change. I like to use food as an anlogy. What does it feel like to be hungry? You can't explain it right. But you eat and feel satisfied. Same with smokers. I used to be one. But again. There are way to many rules in this country. O remember visiting holland. It was beautiful and we went up this windmill and saw a skull and cross bones. That's it. Meaning you can go around the rope but you could also die. In the US, that display would be off limits, protected by 5 feet of glass and unresponsible parents allow laws to be changed due to their bad patenting and we all pay. You'll see. Someday it will affect you.
It's probably too late for you to read this since it's Sunday now and the thread is long but what a lot of BS.
Your whole post could be boiled down to ... "chill." Why even bother writing this junk?
- There are "too many rules" in the USA? The USA is one of the least rule dominated countries on earth. Most people would say the exact opposite of you and think that the USA could actually *use* a few "rules."
- Smoking is like eating? Give me a break.
- Prohibition has nothing to do with anything we are talking about and no one, least of all me has said that smoking should be illegal altogether. My words were "illegal in public."
- It's you that needs to "go to College" ("University" in the rest of the world), and open your mind to some actual facts. Your DEA friends are full of it, and you don't seem to know anything about it either. All you got is some BS conspiracy theory about "patients" (patents?). I bet you believe in Alien Abductions as well.
For your information, I'm a University graduate that has read a lot more about all of this than you seem to have. I am also a former smoker and have a lot of real life first hand experience with drug addicts. Two people in my family have died from smoking.
The sad thing about smokers, even those that claim to like it and do it because "they want to," is that they all quit eventually. Every last one of them that doesn't get run over by a bus eventually quits even if it's only on their death beds, and every last one of them regrets not quitting sooner.
I know I'm being mean to the smokers by being so strident, but hey that's the only thing that actually works with drug addicts. Tough love, and shaming. For anyone thinking of quitting, all the commiseration and crutches in the world won't get you anywhere, but that will. Smokers are drug addicts and need to feel ashamed that they are so that they get up the gumption to quit.
Computers pick up a great deal of crud, especially if they've been sitting on the floor. One of our customers has machines in each of their branches and they are all tower cases sitting on the floor. On numerous occasions I have actually got the flue from these machines because of inhaling the dust. I've used masks but they are bulky and get in the way of doing the job effectively.
Also, believe it or not but smoke can spring a hard drive. If you don't know what I'm talking about think of the shavings from a metal lathe. That can happen to your hard drive mostly when you get a head crash but it's been proven that the same thing can happen because of a single grain of cigarette smoke. The distances between the platters and the heads are very small so if cigarette smoke got in there say bye bye to your data.
Smoking is such a horrible habit and I personally have never smoked even a single cigarette in my life but then I had the luxury of seeing what happens to smokers with one of my nanas dying of lung cancer, and all my other grand parents having smoking related illnesses mostly asthma and emphysema right up until they died. It just never seemed worth it.
I fully support Apple on this call. There's a reason why computers are built in vacuums and you want to go and destroy all that by smoking in the same room as your computer?
I hate smokers. Why should I have to breath in their UNFILTERED smoke, inhaling 400 different chemicals ALL harmful to the human body merely because you're too weak willed to give up and you need a fix? Why should MY clothes smell of disgusting cigarette smoke? Why does no one pull up a smoker when they smoke within 3 metres of a door when it's illegal to do so? Why should we computer engineers be forced to work on disgusting computers all because someone needs their fix but needs to do work as well?
Nope, sorry but frankly Apple's got the right attitude here. They're protecting their workers which is more than can be said of many other employees. Stick it to them Apple.
Damn cat owners!
ROFL . . . aahhh, I needed that.