I'm sorry to say, but Woz seems to be quite loony. I remember watching some video where he was talking about counterfeiting bills before and actually using them.
Woz has not been involved with Apple for a long, long time and this statement about Steve Jobs coming back reincarnated at Microsoft is just pure wacky, not to mention offensive. Those ugly tablets with a kickstand? Really?
Woz is also the guy who likes some Android phones, so I don't really care about what Woz thinks. What was the last good thing that Woz actually was involved in, the Apple ][?
This is why Woz is still a great guy - he just loves good technology and he doesn't care who makes it. He's the opposite of the kind of venom filled blind fanboys who infest the internet and spew their hatred against anything that isn't from their chosen camp.
I'm looking forward to using a Surface for myself, as should anyone who is interested in technology.
I'm curious, kotatus. Is your eagerness to use the Surface based on Microsoft's PROMISES of what it may--or may not--be, or what you have seen firsthand with your own eyes? If you're going strictly on the (hilariously bad) LA demo session and the Potemkin Village website MS has put up, don't hold your breath for the remainder of this year. Remember the Courier? How did that turn out after Big Stevie's announcement at CES a few years back? How's Project Pink doing right now on the Redmond campus? Does it make us, one and all, "blind fanboys" because we believe in testing, using, and judging REAL products from REPUTABLE companies and not ghost-units from vaporware producers of the past? The Surface does not exist. Period. And no one this side of Redmond knows what it will be like . . . if it ever actually ships.
Seriously? You honestly think he hasn't done anything else with his life?
Well "anything" was used in the colloquial sense of course.
I'm sure he got up every day and drove somewhere and ate some stuff and then pooped it out again later on. He has also been active in some companies and had that whole thing with the programmable remote he was inventing which would have been cool if it had came out when he first thought of it. Personally, I was seriously impressed by the Kathy Griffiths thing also.
He seems like a nice guy etc. and I know he's a genius etc. I don't mean any particular personal insult to him, just that yeah, he "hasn't done much since the glory days" AFAIK.
A part of this perception is fuelled by the fact that the person he is easiest to compare to is Steve Jobs since they started out together and Steve Jobs kept right on doing all kinds of interesting world-shaking things for many years after they split. That's a hard act to follow of course and hard to look good in comparison.
If it was up to Woz, the vaunted Apple II would have been just another homebrew / hobbyist kit computer to impress his friends (instead of the finished & assembled computer that sold millions). Woz is beloved by geeks, but product vision was not his thing, something even Woz would not dispute. That said, let the Surface fans come out to gloat.
Wozniak is an idiot sometimes. Wozniak's biggest claim to fame was the original Apple and that's about it. Woz wasn't part of the Mac team that I know of. Woz hasn't done anything successful since and I think he is trying to use the media to get attention and he says some of the STOOPIDIST things. In order for Steve Jobs to be re-incarnated, he has to be reborn into another physical body and that person has to grow old enough to walk, talk, understand technology, etc. Sometimes, Woz says things that just want to make one hit him over the head to knock some sense into him. I personally think he should get 1,000 lashes with a wet noodle award.
Maybe Microsoft should hire Steve Wozniak. Personally, that might PROVE he's an idiot if he takes the job.
Exactly. Who the heck cares what Woz thinks?
I've been asking the same question every month or so when AI posts another silly article telling us what phone Woz uses or what he thinks about something. What's next? His favorite brand of athletic shoe?
Presumably at least 2 or 3 more than have any interest in whatever self-important "observations' come rolling off your keyboard...
I like Woz just like the next guy. His contributions to Apple in the early years was something we all will forever be grateful for. That being said, thank goodness that Steve Jobs was the one running Apple and not Woz. Woz is a tinkerer and if it were up to him, he would never have capitalized on his invention and would have given it away for free and there would be no Apple. He would have ran Apple right into the ground. He has no business sense whatsoever and as big a heart that he has, he is not cut out to run with the big boys. He's like a big, gullible teddy bear.
His description about Steve Jobs being at Microsoft is a downright shame I think. While Microsoft is trying to get back on its feet, to even imply that Microsoft is on the same playing field innovation-wise as what Apple is doing is downright insulting.
Let's not forget that Monkey-boy Ballmer is at the helm and so long as he's calling the shots, innovation will always take a back seat.
Good luck to you Woz, but please stop trying to be something you're not.
Wozniak is an idiot sometimes. Wozniak's biggest claim to fame was the original Apple and that's about it. Woz wasn't part of the Mac team that I know of. Woz hasn't done anything successful since and I think he is trying to use the media to get attention and he says some of the STOOPIDIST things. In order for Steve Jobs to be re-incarnated, he has to be reborn into another physical body and that person has to grow old enough to walk, talk, understand technology, etc. Sometimes, Woz says things that just want to make one hit him over the head to knock some sense into him. I personally think he should get 1,000 lashes with a wet noodle award.
Maybe Microsoft should hire Steve Wozniak. Personally, that might PROVE he's an idiot if he takes the job.
If you're able to so confidently disparage Woz's measly little accomplishment (the Apple ][ and it's tons of innovations) as being his only claim to fame, then I'm very interested in hearing about your own accomplishments and how they've contributed to launching an industry. Please elaborate...
Poor Woz. His elevator just can't make it to the top floor. Modern computer design has passed his technical limit long ago and his sense of esthetics never did develop
Woz gets quoted because of his past connection to Apple and the fact that he says good things about brands other than Apple. And I appreciate that he appreciates all sorts of tech from all sorts of companies. He'll try out just about anything tech, regardless of brand - I assume because he's interested and can afford to do so. He comes off as being less biased that way. If I had the money, I would likely do the same.
I was completely with you about how he's not brand-biased and keeps an open mind to any/all new technology. But this "reincarnated" thing leaves a horrible taste in my mouth for reasons it's hard to put into words. It just feels... really wrong. I truly wish he'd not said what he said, and he makes me sad.
"[Microsoft's latest products] have such a strikingly good visual appearance which is a lot of what Steve Jobs always looked for, the art and technology; the convergence of art and technology," Wozniak said.
This is a completely non-sensical statement from Woz and explains the complete disconnect he's had with Steve since the Mac was created. Steve doesn't look for a good visual appearance. The man always had the look he wanted when he worked on refinining the engineering necessary [with his teams] to create what he envisioned.
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I'm sorry to say, but Woz seems to be quite loony. I remember watching some video where he was talking about counterfeiting bills before and actually using them.
Woz has not been involved with Apple for a long, long time and this statement about Steve Jobs coming back reincarnated at Microsoft is just pure wacky, not to mention offensive. Those ugly tablets with a kickstand? Really?
Woz is also the guy who likes some Android phones, so I don't really care about what Woz thinks. What was the last good thing that Woz actually was involved in, the Apple ][?
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Originally Posted by kotatsu
This is why Woz is still a great guy - he just loves good technology and he doesn't care who makes it. He's the opposite of the kind of venom filled blind fanboys who infest the internet and spew their hatred against anything that isn't from their chosen camp.
I'm looking forward to using a Surface for myself, as should anyone who is interested in technology.
I'm curious, kotatus. Is your eagerness to use the Surface based on Microsoft's PROMISES of what it may--or may not--be, or what you have seen firsthand with your own eyes? If you're going strictly on the (hilariously bad) LA demo session and the Potemkin Village website MS has put up, don't hold your breath for the remainder of this year. Remember the Courier? How did that turn out after Big Stevie's announcement at CES a few years back? How's Project Pink doing right now on the Redmond campus? Does it make us, one and all, "blind fanboys" because we believe in testing, using, and judging REAL products from REPUTABLE companies and not ghost-units from vaporware producers of the past? The Surface does not exist. Period. And no one this side of Redmond knows what it will be like . . . if it ever actually ships.
Not being snarky. Just realistic.
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Originally Posted by 65C816
Seriously? You honestly think he hasn't done anything else with his life?
Well "anything" was used in the colloquial sense of course.
I'm sure he got up every day and drove somewhere and ate some stuff and then pooped it out again later on. He has also been active in some companies and had that whole thing with the programmable remote he was inventing which would have been cool if it had came out when he first thought of it. Personally, I was seriously impressed by the Kathy Griffiths thing also.
He seems like a nice guy etc. and I know he's a genius etc. I don't mean any particular personal insult to him, just that yeah, he "hasn't done much since the glory days" AFAIK.
A part of this perception is fuelled by the fact that the person he is easiest to compare to is Steve Jobs since they started out together and Steve Jobs kept right on doing all kinds of interesting world-shaking things for many years after they split. That's a hard act to follow of course and hard to look good in comparison.
And Mr. Wozniak has done what since leaving Apple?
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And Mr. Wozniak has done what since leaving Apple?
He collects phones and likes to wait outside Apple stores during product launches.
Woz was a one-hit-wonder - 30 years ago. now he's just a pompous gasbag still trying to live off that. he should be on the oldies geezer rock circuit.
i wish he would just go away, but i know he can't ever shut up.
If it was up to Woz, the vaunted Apple II would have been just another homebrew / hobbyist kit computer to impress his friends (instead of the finished & assembled computer that sold millions). Woz is beloved by geeks, but product vision was not his thing, something even Woz would not dispute. That said, let the Surface fans come out to gloat.
Woz continues to enlarge & redefine what it means to be a "loose cannon."
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Woz has some problems IMHO.
Wozniak is an idiot sometimes. Wozniak's biggest claim to fame was the original Apple and that's about it. Woz wasn't part of the Mac team that I know of. Woz hasn't done anything successful since and I think he is trying to use the media to get attention and he says some of the STOOPIDIST things. In order for Steve Jobs to be re-incarnated, he has to be reborn into another physical body and that person has to grow old enough to walk, talk, understand technology, etc. Sometimes, Woz says things that just want to make one hit him over the head to knock some sense into him. I personally think he should get 1,000 lashes with a wet noodle award.
Maybe Microsoft should hire Steve Wozniak. Personally, that might PROVE he's an idiot if he takes the job.
Contrary to popular belief, not everybody should try to be like Mike...
Presumably at least 2 or 3 more than have any interest in whatever self-important "observations' come rolling off your keyboard...
I like Woz just like the next guy. His contributions to Apple in the early years was something we all will forever be grateful for. That being said, thank goodness that Steve Jobs was the one running Apple and not Woz. Woz is a tinkerer and if it were up to him, he would never have capitalized on his invention and would have given it away for free and there would be no Apple. He would have ran Apple right into the ground. He has no business sense whatsoever and as big a heart that he has, he is not cut out to run with the big boys. He's like a big, gullible teddy bear.
His description about Steve Jobs being at Microsoft is a downright shame I think. While Microsoft is trying to get back on its feet, to even imply that Microsoft is on the same playing field innovation-wise as what Apple is doing is downright insulting.
Let's not forget that Monkey-boy Ballmer is at the helm and so long as he's calling the shots, innovation will always take a back seat.
Good luck to you Woz, but please stop trying to be something you're not.
I just lost all respect for that man.
He is obviously paid up nicely by Ballmer and company.
He always talks this sh**. I guess because he has so much effing money he can say and do what he pleases.
If you're able to so confidently disparage Woz's measly little accomplishment (the Apple ][ and it's tons of innovations) as being his only claim to fame, then I'm very interested in hearing about your own accomplishments and how they've contributed to launching an industry. Please elaborate...
Poor Woz. His elevator just can't make it to the top floor. Modern computer design has passed his technical limit long ago and his sense of esthetics never did develop
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Originally Posted by jmgregory1
Woz gets quoted because of his past connection to Apple and the fact that he says good things about brands other than Apple. And I appreciate that he appreciates all sorts of tech from all sorts of companies. He'll try out just about anything tech, regardless of brand - I assume because he's interested and can afford to do so. He comes off as being less biased that way. If I had the money, I would likely do the same.
I was completely with you about how he's not brand-biased and keeps an open mind to any/all new technology. But this "reincarnated" thing leaves a horrible taste in my mouth for reasons it's hard to put into words. It just feels... really wrong. I truly wish he'd not said what he said, and he makes me sad.
A one-hit wonder? lol. You obviously have no idea what took place in the computer industry before you were born -- what 13 years ago?
Woz, from everything that I've ever seen or read, is the exact opposite of pompous. He's self-effacing and self-deprecating.
As compared to the pompous gasbags commenting here who are nothing but self-defecating...
"[Microsoft's latest products] have such a strikingly good visual appearance which is a lot of what Steve Jobs always looked for, the art and technology; the convergence of art and technology," Wozniak said.
This is a completely non-sensical statement from Woz and explains the complete disconnect he's had with Steve since the Mac was created. Steve doesn't look for a good visual appearance. The man always had the look he wanted when he worked on refinining the engineering necessary [with his teams] to create what he envisioned.
Steve Wozniak 99.9% brilliant engineer, 0.1% tact
Why Apple wouldn't have gone anywhere without Jobs.