I hope with a lot of the part of my heart reserved for hating Samsung that BTV*s are invented and Samsung is humiliated, stigmatizing this feature into back alleys and hourly rate hotels.
You've got to admit, Samsung is innovating. You can certainly argue that Apple implements ideas in a more elegant, controlled and tight sort of way, but iOS isn't exactly pioneering the way in new ideas lately.
As an Android user myself, I pray that iOS 7 brings NFC capabilities so that technology finally takes off. Android has had it for over a year, but until Apple gets it, it just won't be that wide spread.
According to Wikipedia, Android NFS phones have been out since 2010. With a larger market share, why aren't they driving the standard and why isn't it "taking off"? Why does it take Apple?
In almost all cases a user with a Samsung phone isn't even near someone with a Samsung phone, or even one with a Samsung phone new enough to do that kind of sharing.
This reminds me of a MS Surface commercial where everyone has a Surface to throw around. In real life the Surface owner is alone in a corner with his pocket protector and a "Windows 8 for Dummies" book.
I wouldn't say that's accurate. High-end Samsung phones aren't nearly as prolific as iPhones but there are a lot of them. The problem I've found with the social aspects of Samsung phones is that they are more often used by very antisocial people. Of course, that's purely anecdotal on my part (and not at all bias¡) so everyone else's accounts of S-Hitheads (because they're a hit) may be different.
What a ridiculous, misleading ad. Has anyone actually seen videos of reviewers actually trying to use the "air view" bullshit? I have. The guy was making huge fucking motions with his hands, over and over again, to try to scroll to the next photo which worked like 1/5 times. Hovering your finger over something in the same spot for a few seconds to select it is not that easy or intuitive to do either. The S-beam is equally redundant and useless. So instead of taking 2 seconds and just texting the person a photo (or email/FB/instagram/ any other of the million and one sharing options), it's somehow preferable and easier to PHYSICALLY touch your phones together? Why? Oh right, and it has to be a Samsung phone that has that feature, a tiny minority of phones. But hey, it's a "feature", no mater how mind-numbingly idiotic and useless it is, just like all these features, which I very much doubt will be used in any real way by real people.
At least Apple's ads show people using their product in realistic, believable, and real world ways. These ads desperately try to concoct situations in which these proof-of-concept gimmicks actually seem useful, when in reality they're impractical, unreliable, and unintuitive. I'm honestly curious the ACTUAL percentage of people that have ever used the S-beam in real situations. I can't believe it would be a statistically significant percentage. But of course, whether people actually use these features or not is irrelevant for a company like Samsung- as long as they accumulate bullet points and can make snarky ads.
Wow it's been that long? As much as I hate to admit it, it DOES take Apple entering the ring at this point in game. So many of my friends buy iPhones because they are iPhones. They have no idea what the competition offers and think that their phone is the best because, again, it's an iPhone. I know I'm generalizing, not trying to offend anyone. Whether it's the best phone or not, it's that kind of mentality that leads to revolutionary changes in the way we live (i.e. mobile payments) needing to be driven by a company like Apple with such a devout following and robust marketing campaign. Retailers and restaurant chains will jump on board right away if they know that all iPhone users in the world now know about NFC capabilities... they won't want to miss that market. They ignore Android.
Having said that, I have a Galaxy Nexus and use Google Wallet as often as I can, especially in taxis. Some places have it all set up, including Macy's, McDonalds, Banana Republic just to name a few. I love the technology, but I get such strange looks when I pay by tapping my phone. Guarantee that more than half the time, it's the first time the clerk has seen it in action (several have told me that). Once Apple integrates it and pours marketing dollars into it, everyone will know about it (and everyone will think Apple did something revolutionary, but that's a rant for a different time). I live in SF too, so I can only imagine that NFC payment opportunities are even more scarce in other parts of the US.
According to Wikipedia, Android NFS phones have been out since 2010. With a larger market share, why aren't they driving the standard and why isn't it "taking off"? Why does it take Apple?
the funny part is some features have been available on the iPhone for years. Bump is just one app with functionality like S beam. It only been out since 2011. The current version even works with computers too.
In almost all cases a user with a Samsung phone isn't even near someone with a Samsung phone, or even one with a Samsung phone new enough to do that kind of sharing.
This reminds me of a MS Surface commercial where everyone has a Surface to throw around. In real life the Surface owner is alone in a corner with his pocket protector and a "Windows 8 for Dummies" book.
Not to mention, the very free, and very popular iOS app, Bump, lets you do this, too. It isn't even an exclusive feature. And it works with all iPhones (4.3+), Android phones (2.2+) AND computers!!
The solution in search of a problem that is only available on Samsung apps, because no developer with a brain is going to implement features for only a segment of Android.
I weep with envy.
AirView is cool for answering the phone without touching it, but I don't see much use for it past that. Built in IR is nice.
The unfortunate thing is that it runs Android and Android has a lot of problems with it.
It would have been a great feature for an iDevice in the last decade. Apple could have had a kick ass Universal remote but I think they see IR as being too archaic and limited despite its ubiquity. Now that we have new BT profiles that seem ideal for remote controls I think that's something we'll see moving forward for high-end devices. Well, once Apple makes it a reality anyway.
What problems? I find Jellybean more stable than my daughter's iOS on the IP5. I've never had an issue or a problem in almost 2 years. And I'm not a paid spokesman.
Not to mention, the very free, and very popular iOS app, Bump, lets you do this, too. It isn't even an exclusive feature. And it works with all iPhones (4.3+), Android phones (2.2+) AND computers!!
Bump has been available since the original iPhone app store in 2008 (?), IIRC. I used once because it seemed cool. Never used it again.
What problems? I find Jellybean more stable than my daughter's iOS on the IP5. I've never had an issue or a problem in almost 2 years. And I'm not a paid spokesman.
What exactly is unstable about iOS? I dont' mean annoying, not to your liking, stupid... whatever.
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This "old codger" has to hobble out this weekend (with his iPhone) and buy a new dishwasher. Good bet it will NOT be a Samsung!
Originally Posted by GTR
I hope with a lot of the part of my heart reserved for hating Samsung that BTV*s are invented and Samsung is humiliated, stigmatizing this feature into back alleys and hourly rate hotels.
*Bumpially Transmitted Viruses
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Originally Posted by egern
You've got to admit, Samsung is innovating. You can certainly argue that Apple implements ideas in a more elegant, controlled and tight sort of way, but iOS isn't exactly pioneering the way in new ideas lately.
As an Android user myself, I pray that iOS 7 brings NFC capabilities so that technology finally takes off. Android has had it for over a year, but until Apple gets it, it just won't be that wide spread.
According to Wikipedia, Android NFS phones have been out since 2010. With a larger market share, why aren't they driving the standard and why isn't it "taking off"? Why does it take Apple?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication
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2010 Samsung Nexus S: First Android NFC phone shown
Returns? That implies they actually stopped.
I wouldn't say that's accurate. High-end Samsung phones aren't nearly as prolific as iPhones but there are a lot of them. The problem I've found with the social aspects of Samsung phones is that they are more often used by very antisocial people. Of course, that's purely anecdotal on my part (and not at all bias¡) so everyone else's accounts of S-Hitheads (because they're a hit) may be different.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
...S-Hitheads (because they're a hit) ....
I love that. I think I'll S-chew 'fandroid' in favor of this one. Thanks!
Samsung as in iCopy
Smartphone
iPad
Mac Air
Passbook app
Samsung as in iCopy
Smartphone
iPad
Mac Air
Passbook app
At least Apple's ads show people using their product in realistic, believable, and real world ways. These ads desperately try to concoct situations in which these proof-of-concept gimmicks actually seem useful, when in reality they're impractical, unreliable, and unintuitive. I'm honestly curious the ACTUAL percentage of people that have ever used the S-beam in real situations. I can't believe it would be a statistically significant percentage. But of course, whether people actually use these features or not is irrelevant for a company like Samsung- as long as they accumulate bullet points and can make snarky ads.
Wow it's been that long? As much as I hate to admit it, it DOES take Apple entering the ring at this point in game. So many of my friends buy iPhones because they are iPhones. They have no idea what the competition offers and think that their phone is the best because, again, it's an iPhone. I know I'm generalizing, not trying to offend anyone. Whether it's the best phone or not, it's that kind of mentality that leads to revolutionary changes in the way we live (i.e. mobile payments) needing to be driven by a company like Apple with such a devout following and robust marketing campaign. Retailers and restaurant chains will jump on board right away if they know that all iPhone users in the world now know about NFC capabilities... they won't want to miss that market. They ignore Android.
Having said that, I have a Galaxy Nexus and use Google Wallet as often as I can, especially in taxis. Some places have it all set up, including Macy's, McDonalds, Banana Republic just to name a few. I love the technology, but I get such strange looks when I pay by tapping my phone. Guarantee that more than half the time, it's the first time the clerk has seen it in action (several have told me that). Once Apple integrates it and pours marketing dollars into it, everyone will know about it (and everyone will think Apple did something revolutionary, but that's a rant for a different time). I live in SF too, so I can only imagine that NFC payment opportunities are even more scarce in other parts of the US.
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky
In almost all cases a user with a Samsung phone isn't even near someone with a Samsung phone, or even one with a Samsung phone new enough to do that kind of sharing.
This reminds me of a MS Surface commercial where everyone has a Surface to throw around. In real life the Surface owner is alone in a corner with his pocket protector and a "Windows 8 for Dummies" book.
Not to mention, the very free, and very popular iOS app, Bump, lets you do this, too. It isn't even an exclusive feature. And it works with all iPhones (4.3+), Android phones (2.2+) AND computers!!
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Originally Posted by GQB
Yes... Air View.
The solution in search of a problem that is only available on Samsung apps, because no developer with a brain is going to implement features for only a segment of Android.
I weep with envy.
AirView is cool for answering the phone without touching it, but I don't see much use for it past that. Built in IR is nice.
The unfortunate thing is that it runs Android and Android has a lot of problems with it.
It would have been a great feature for an iDevice in the last decade. Apple could have had a kick ass Universal remote but I think they see IR as being too archaic and limited despite its ubiquity. Now that we have new BT profiles that seem ideal for remote controls I think that's something we'll see moving forward for high-end devices. Well, once Apple makes it a reality anyway.
What problems? I find Jellybean more stable than my daughter's iOS on the IP5. I've never had an issue or a problem in almost 2 years. And I'm not a paid spokesman.
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Originally Posted by starbird73
Not to mention, the very free, and very popular iOS app, Bump, lets you do this, too. It isn't even an exclusive feature. And it works with all iPhones (4.3+), Android phones (2.2+) AND computers!!
Bump has been available since the original iPhone app store in 2008 (?), IIRC. I used once because it seemed cool. Never used it again.
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Originally Posted by SCProfessor
What problems? I find Jellybean more stable than my daughter's iOS on the IP5. I've never had an issue or a problem in almost 2 years. And I'm not a paid spokesman.
What exactly is unstable about iOS? I dont' mean annoying, not to your liking, stupid... whatever.
Unstable= ???