So many people on this thread who have tiny hands.
If the iPhone6 is too big your hands must be really small.
You know what they say about small hands?
What are you talking about? Why are you such an ass about it?
I have a 6 Plus and love it. But I'm not a total jerk toward people who think 4" is just fine and don't need or want any bigger.
4.7" pushes the limits of one-thumb usage, and some people like that. Personally, I don't care about that and prefer the other advantages of the bigger screen, but not everyone does.
Imagine if 10 other people did the exact same thing as me and quoted Benny Frost and deleted most of his message and replied 'reported'.
It will give a clear message what kind of troll he is. By publicly saying we reported him it will make an impact. Imagine if 30 users did it? Mods would have no choice but to ban him.
Imagine BF as a troll zombiem, and his comments are his attempt to eat your brains. You writing reported is the equivalent of him biting you and you becoming a troll zombie. It's best to avoid zombies. I don't want to see you turn.
What if the next 4" iPhone is a plastic case and uses the 2014 components (i.e.: iPhone 6 performance) in the 2015 model? Will that be sufficient? What if the weight and volume increases somewhat due to the removable of a metal casing in favour of plastic? What if the weight and volume of the 2016 Phone 7 to get closer to that of the current iPhone 5/5S; would you consider it over a plastic 4" iPhone using year old components?
(I know I'm asking you a lot of 'what-if' questions but most of your fellow pro-4" iPhone brethren tend not to be reasonable, so I'm taking advantage of your rationale comments while I can.)
No problem!
And I wanted to clarify. When I said I got the 6 shortly after it was released, I think it was probably about 3/4 weeks after Apple started shipping them that I got mine and I've been using it exclusively since.
Plastic case would be a (100%) deal breaker for me and by deal breaker meaning, I'd just suck it up and stick with my iPhone 6 or just get the next newer iPhone (what ever it's called). Part of the reason I think I like the 5 so much is its overall build; material and weight. Just to be clear as well though, the 5c is well construed and Apple's "un-apologetically plastic" is the best. I've used the 5c (and recommended them for family members coming from other devices).
If it were using all 2014 components, including the camera, I'd really have to think greatly about that one. The iPhone 6 camera is great, but if the camera in the next iPhone were that much better (than the one in the 6, which would/could then be the camera in the next 4") that would probably be another deal breaker.
If the weight/volume of the 2016 iPhone were to get closer to that of the 5/5s, I would absolutely consider it over the 4" iPhone using last years components (and would probably get the 2016 iPhone, or keep my current, if Apple went that route). Like others here though, I really hope the just fully update the 4" (with an A9, NFC, camera, etc)!!! "Like white on rice!"
This could work both ways. "Continuity" makes the 3.5 inch iPhone a sensible product: leave the phone in the bag and use your ? watch, iPad, Macbook ...
Actually that's an argument AGAINST the 3.5" phone. I been saying the 6 & 6 plus are excellent marketing for the ?Watch, because with the watch, the size of the phone is somewhat irrelevant. Most people prefer as large a screen as possible for web use, and the watch makes it possible to leave the phone in your bag or pocket most of them time. It's hard to imagine a person who is using the tiny watch interface to settle for a 3.5" screen when they need it, since the watch enables them to carry a much larger screen.
I think the 3.5" boat has sailed. A more compact 4" screen is likely the way they go if they do it at all. And I say that, not because of the watch or continuity, but for someone who texts a lot, the 4" screen horizontally is just about the perfect size. And for those who are more hands on, generally easier to operate and transport.
They just moved it to control center so I don't see what the big deal is. I use it all the the time and don't miss the hardware button one bit.
Agreed. Its not like an iPhone, where the need to toggle between mute/ring/mute/ring is more constant. And its now a lot easier to find volume up/down on iPad simply via touch.
That's the key point. The mid-priced phone will be significantly different from the top-end. When Apple simply sold last years phone at $100 less they were losing a ton of top-tier sales. For example when the iPhone5 came out too many people opted for the iPhone 4S and that hurt margins and revenue. With the 5S/5C there was a clear distinction between top and mid tier.
For Sept2015 I see the mid-tier as either a 4 inch plastic phone with A8/fingerprint/NFC or a 4.7 inch plastic phone.
Unfortunately (for me), your logic is sound! :-P :-P
What are you talking about? Why are you such an ass about it?
I have a 6 Plus and love it. But I'm not a total jerk toward people who think 4" is just fine and don't need or want any bigger.
4.7" pushes the limits of one-thumb usage, and some people like that. Personally, I don't care about that and prefer the other advantages of the bigger screen, but not everyone does.
I'm sorry for offending people who actually have small hands.
But I'm pretty sure most of those who are grumbling about the iPhone's size have big enough hands but just want to troll.
In real life I have no heard a single person say the iPhone5 or iPhone6 are too big. Not one. And I see and talk to HUNDREDS of people with iPhones.
So its very hard for me to believe that AppleInsider really has a bunch of people who's hands are too small to use an iPhone5/6. It is statistically impossible to have so many people with small hands in such a small population group.
Just think of the dozens of Apple Watch users there'll be!
Yes please! Didn't switch away from my 4S until the 6 came out since I hate big phones. I only then switched to the 5S for the fully functional Touch ID and 64-bit A7 (in comparison the 4S's A5 literally became a turtle in performance), as well as the better camera. If Apple comes up with a 6S mini or 6C or even 6 mini I would happily dump my then under-1-year-old phone.
I'm sorry for offending people who actually have small hands.
But I'm pretty sure most of those who are grumbling about the iPhone's size have big enough hands but just want to troll.
In real life I have no heard a single person say the iPhone5 or iPhone6 are too big. Not one. And I see and talk to HUNDREDS of people with iPhones.
So its very hard for me to believe that AppleInsider really has a bunch of people who's hands are too small to use an iPhone5/6. It is statistically impossible to have so many people with small hands in such a small population group.
I thought you were joking actually (initially anyway), but you did seem a little 'mean' about it (later). Whateves. Some people may just need to lighten up.
But honestly, I *personally* prefer the 4" iPhone 5/5s; not trolling. Regardless, I prefer iOS and Apple devices, and I wouldn't be switching even if Apple stopped making 4" phones. I'd be sad (tear emoticon), and might buy 1 or 2 5s's to hold me over for a year or two (I probably wouldn't, I don't have money to burn).
Again, my bad. Sorry to all the people with small hands.
I just never meet people in real life who were embarrased about having small hands. I really didn't think it would be a hot point. Guess you learn things everyday.
Dude - you're funny.
Again, I actually have relatively big hands, and long fingers. I just prefer the 4"; I can reach the whole phone comfortably w/o stretching (as minor of a stretch as it is).
I used to buy a new iPhone every year. I skipped the iPhone 6 because it is too big. I very much want Apple Pay, but I'm not willing to accept a phone bigger than my iPhone 5s. I prefer the size of the 4s, but the 5s is tolerable.
apple watch will enable you to use apple pay w/ your 5S
The 4 inch iPhone is an abomination. It was a haphazard response to the large screen phenomenon while attempting to maintain one-handed dexterity. The answer was not to split the baby, but to create an entirely new class of device as Apple finally did with iPhone 6. While these newer phones are indeed solid choices, they in no way diminish the viability of the original 3.5 inch model. If Apple were to truly think different, this is the path they would choose.
wait -- how is offering a platitude of sizes thinking different? doesnt samsung do that? if so, how again is it thinking different?
i understand people want various things, but its disingenuous to suggest not doing what you want means apple is not doing its own thing.
Because it will be $99, to cleanly fit the product line.
Apple has to do this. Keep the 4" alive for the millions that don't want bigger.
Yes, but it doesn't have to the cheap model. Cheaper perhaps than the bigger phones, but like the MacBook Pro Line the 4" device does not have to be inferior.
I'm so happy that useless mute switch is gone. So un-Apple like to have a near useless hardware button.
as a mute switch it was useless, as an orientation lock it was not. the ipad gets used on a sofa and in bed, so turning is common and locking the orientation for reading on your side was useful to do rapidly via the switch w/o even taking your eyes off the sentence you were reading. now the use case requires you to take your attention away from the content and focus on several UI interactions to achieve the same goal.
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So many people on this thread who have tiny hands.
If the iPhone6 is too big your hands must be really small.
You know what they say about small hands?
What are you talking about? Why are you such an ass about it?
I have a 6 Plus and love it. But I'm not a total jerk toward people who think 4" is just fine and don't need or want any bigger.
4.7" pushes the limits of one-thumb usage, and some people like that. Personally, I don't care about that and prefer the other advantages of the bigger screen, but not everyone does.
Apparently the average user in this thread has these sized hands.
I've never ever heard anyone in real life say the iPhone5 is too big.
YOu guys are either trolls or have very small hands.
I mean seriously. Even my 5 year old niece can easily use an iPhone5
You need to be banned I think. At least a time out, until you mature a little.
What if the next 4" iPhone is a plastic case and uses the 2014 components (i.e.: iPhone 6 performance) in the 2015 model? Will that be sufficient? What if the weight and volume increases somewhat due to the removable of a metal casing in favour of plastic? What if the weight and volume of the 2016 Phone 7 to get closer to that of the current iPhone 5/5S; would you consider it over a plastic 4" iPhone using year old components?
(I know I'm asking you a lot of 'what-if' questions but most of your fellow pro-4" iPhone brethren tend not to be reasonable, so I'm taking advantage of your rationale comments while I can.)
No problem!
And I wanted to clarify. When I said I got the 6 shortly after it was released, I think it was probably about 3/4 weeks after Apple started shipping them that I got mine and I've been using it exclusively since.
Plastic case would be a (100%) deal breaker for me and by deal breaker meaning, I'd just suck it up and stick with my iPhone 6 or just get the next newer iPhone (what ever it's called). Part of the reason I think I like the 5 so much is its overall build; material and weight. Just to be clear as well though, the 5c is well construed and Apple's "un-apologetically plastic" is the best. I've used the 5c (and recommended them for family members coming from other devices).
If it were using all 2014 components, including the camera, I'd really have to think greatly about that one. The iPhone 6 camera is great, but if the camera in the next iPhone were that much better (than the one in the 6, which would/could then be the camera in the next 4") that would probably be another deal breaker.
If the weight/volume of the 2016 iPhone were to get closer to that of the 5/5s, I would absolutely consider it over the 4" iPhone using last years components (and would probably get the 2016 iPhone, or keep my current, if Apple went that route). Like others here though, I really hope the just fully update the 4" (with an A9, NFC, camera, etc)!!!
"Like white on rice!"
Actually that's an argument AGAINST the 3.5" phone. I been saying the 6 & 6 plus are excellent marketing for the ?Watch, because with the watch, the size of the phone is somewhat irrelevant. Most people prefer as large a screen as possible for web use, and the watch makes it possible to leave the phone in your bag or pocket most of them time. It's hard to imagine a person who is using the tiny watch interface to settle for a 3.5" screen when they need it, since the watch enables them to carry a much larger screen.
I think the 3.5" boat has sailed. A more compact 4" screen is likely the way they go if they do it at all. And I say that, not because of the watch or continuity, but for someone who texts a lot, the 4" screen horizontally is just about the perfect size. And for those who are more hands on, generally easier to operate and transport.
They just moved it to control center so I don't see what the big deal is. I use it all the the time and don't miss the hardware button one bit.
Agreed. Its not like an iPhone, where the need to toggle between mute/ring/mute/ring is more constant. And its now a lot easier to find volume up/down on iPad simply via touch.
That's the key point. The mid-priced phone will be significantly different from the top-end. When Apple simply sold last years phone at $100 less they were losing a ton of top-tier sales. For example when the iPhone5 came out too many people opted for the iPhone 4S and that hurt margins and revenue. With the 5S/5C there was a clear distinction between top and mid tier.
For Sept2015 I see the mid-tier as either a 4 inch plastic phone with A8/fingerprint/NFC or a 4.7 inch plastic phone.
Unfortunately (for me), your logic is sound! :-P :-P
Just think of the dozens of Apple Watch users there'll be!
What tiny hands they must have!
As long as it's not plastic.
Why not? We've got two 5c's here and the plastic case has been completely without issue. Stiff, no scratches or dings, no problems at all.
Might could do with a black color option, but that's about it.
I'm sorry for offending people who actually have small hands.
But I'm pretty sure most of those who are grumbling about the iPhone's size have big enough hands but just want to troll.
In real life I have no heard a single person say the iPhone5 or iPhone6 are too big. Not one. And I see and talk to HUNDREDS of people with iPhones.
So its very hard for me to believe that AppleInsider really has a bunch of people who's hands are too small to use an iPhone5/6. It is statistically impossible to have so many people with small hands in such a small population group.
I thought you were joking actually (initially anyway), but you did seem a little 'mean' about it (later). Whateves. Some people may just need to lighten up.
But honestly, I *personally* prefer the 4" iPhone 5/5s; not trolling. Regardless, I prefer iOS and Apple devices, and I wouldn't be switching even if Apple stopped making 4" phones. I'd be sad (tear emoticon), and might buy 1 or 2 5s's to hold me over for a year or two (I probably wouldn't, I don't have money to burn).
Again, my bad. Sorry to all the people with small hands.
I just never meet people in real life who were embarrased about having small hands. I really didn't think it would be a hot point. Guess you learn things everyday.
Dude - you're funny.
Again, I actually have relatively big hands, and long fingers. I just prefer the 4"; I can reach the whole phone comfortably w/o stretching (as minor of a stretch as it is).
Why not? We've got two 5c's here and the plastic case has been completely without issue. Stiff, no scratches or dings, no problems at all.
Might could do with a black color option, but that's about it.
Just my preference.
We can pretty much guess what the phones will look like.
The two larger sizes won't change at all given it's just a speed bump and some force touch added.
Apple's not going to retool for the 'S' model year.
The 4" model will look exactly the same as the 6 and 6 plus, i.e rounded edges
But perhaps clad in plastic. It's all about having a consistent look with slight deviation.
I'm sure people who prefer a 4" phone exist, but I haven't met a single one in the real world.
Don't get out much do you
4inch with the top of the line camera/nfc... prefer metal case... I'm in!
While I do understand the benefits/desire of a larger screen, my use case(s) make the smaller phone more suitable for me... YMMV
I used to buy a new iPhone every year. I skipped the iPhone 6 because it is too big. I very much want Apple Pay, but I'm not willing to accept a phone bigger than my iPhone 5s. I prefer the size of the 4s, but the 5s is tolerable.
apple watch will enable you to use apple pay w/ your 5S
The 4 inch iPhone is an abomination. It was a haphazard response to the large screen phenomenon while attempting to maintain one-handed dexterity. The answer was not to split the baby, but to create an entirely new class of device as Apple finally did with iPhone 6. While these newer phones are indeed solid choices, they in no way diminish the viability of the original 3.5 inch model. If Apple were to truly think different, this is the path they would choose.
wait -- how is offering a platitude of sizes thinking different? doesnt samsung do that? if so, how again is it thinking different?
i understand people want various things, but its disingenuous to suggest not doing what you want means apple is not doing its own thing.
Because it will be $99, to cleanly fit the product line.
Apple has to do this. Keep the 4" alive for the millions that don't want bigger.
Yes, but it doesn't have to the cheap model. Cheaper perhaps than the bigger phones, but like the MacBook Pro Line the 4" device does not have to be inferior.
I'm so happy that useless mute switch is gone. So un-Apple like to have a near useless hardware button.
as a mute switch it was useless, as an orientation lock it was not. the ipad gets used on a sofa and in bed, so turning is common and locking the orientation for reading on your side was useful to do rapidly via the switch w/o even taking your eyes off the sentence you were reading. now the use case requires you to take your attention away from the content and focus on several UI interactions to achieve the same goal.