I'd like there to be something a lot more costly than the current Apple TV. Why? [...]
All good points, especially the multiuser remote which could potentially be extended to multiuser HomeKit hub. According to the HomeKit documentation, in order to interact with your HomeKit devices while away, one has to be logged into your iCloud account on both the iPhone and the Apple TV, so it would be nice to have multiple people simultaneously logged in to a single Apple TV. Otherwise one would need separate digital hubs for one's spouse or children.
All that and include GameKit, HomeKit, [cloud] BackupKit ...
Ideally, all of it, including (bt not limited to) a feature found in OS X Server that allows for a single update for your Macs,iDevices and apps to be downloaded just once and stored on your LAN until everyone has updated. This would not only use less data each month (which both your ISP and Apple may appreciate), but also allow for less network congestion during this huge updates happening across multiple devices, as well as allow the update to happen more quickly since the files are locally sourced. MS is using a torrent-like share feature for Win10 security updates, I think I read. Apple has the technology to make that work.
All good points, especially the multiuser remote which could potentially be extended to multiuser HomeKit hub. According to the HomeKit documentation, in order to interact with your HomeKit devices while away, one has to be logged into your iCloud account on both the iPhone and the Apple TV, so it would be nice to have multiple people simultaneously logged in to a single Apple TV. Otherwise one would need separate digital hubs for one's spouse or children.
For me, that's one the biggest hurdle of the HEC since there is no one device per person model and it's not convenient to switch users if it takes time or even if the user has to remember they aren't the ones "logged in" to the TV.
One thing's for sure; this is a company who knows how to create buzz.
Think of it this way... Most media now relies on mobile devices for clicks and revenue and the revenue on mobile is all Apple (apps), Google (ads) and Facebook (social interaction and ads). They promote and cover Apple out of self-interest. Every news program I see today is constantly telling viewers to download their app!
All good points, especially the multiuser remote which could potentially be extended to multiuser HomeKit hub. According to the HomeKit documentation, in order to interact with your HomeKit devices while away, one has to be logged into your iCloud account on both the iPhone and the Apple TV, so it would be nice to have multiple people simultaneously logged in to a single Apple TV. Otherwise one would need separate digital hubs for one's spouse or children.
For me, that's one the biggest hurdle of the HEC since there is no one device per person model and it's not convenient to switch users if it takes time or even if the user has to remember they aren't the ones "logged in" to the TV.
We have ATT Uverse Wireless for the TV with rental boxes in the family room and 2 upstairs bedrooms. It attempts to do what you described earlier -- but doesn't work reliably and is expensive.
I like the idea of a personalized UI -- especially if some are watching and/or playing games, recording, enforceable ratings ... I would like to see each person have default access to his personal UI -- and a 1-tap (Siri) access to a family or home shared UI.
I'm surprised no one is talking about Siri on OS X... The last demo of 10.11 showed "natural language search" using text -- this is obviously being done by the Siri engine, they just chose not to show the voice-activated part, in hopes of keeping it a secret until the release.
If it was going to be in OS X this time around, it would have already been in the DPs.
[@]cornchip[/@] wrote, "Wow. That's a lot. To ask of Apple."
It is a lot to [I]want[/I], but it's also not anything that hasn't been done in part by others today or already used by Apple in other areas. It's all about taking the various instruments in an orchestra and composing it into a symphony, which Apple excels at in comparison to their competitors. That said, I'm not saying Apple [I]will[/I] do this, and I would be surprised if even 10% of my ideas get enacted, but it's [I]all[/I] technically possible with the world we live in today.
Oh yeah, agree 100%, I guess I came off sounding a bit daft there, but yeah, all that'd be pretty sweet! :smokey:
Not at all, I just wanted to be clear about my lofty desires.
Note that I also detailed how I would want Apple to get into mobile payments years before they did and it's pretty much dead on, right down to the representational card numbers issued by the bank per device, so maybe Apple can show us all this in 2 weeks, or at least show up a foundation that will eventually support all I've said… but, frankly, I doubt it. If there hadn't been any other new products or services in awhile, then perhaps, but Apple has been very busy so I'm only expecting a medium bump for the home.
The only question is how much it will cost. $99? I’m betting $149 or $199
Apple TV? Unless it comes with a touch screen controller it will be $69 or less. The big deal is a package of shows to replace cable and they want as many people as possible paying them a monthly fee like Apple Music.
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I'd like there to be something a lot more costly than the current Apple TV. Why? [...]
All good points, especially the multiuser remote which could potentially be extended to multiuser HomeKit hub. According to the HomeKit documentation, in order to interact with your HomeKit devices while away, one has to be logged into your iCloud account on both the iPhone and the Apple TV, so it would be nice to have multiple people simultaneously logged in to a single Apple TV. Otherwise one would need separate digital hubs for one's spouse or children.
Ideally, all of it, including (bt not limited to) a feature found in OS X Server that allows for a single update for your Macs,iDevices and apps to be downloaded just once and stored on your LAN until everyone has updated. This would not only use less data each month (which both your ISP and Apple may appreciate), but also allow for less network congestion during this huge updates happening across multiple devices, as well as allow the update to happen more quickly since the files are locally sourced. MS is using a torrent-like share feature for Win10 security updates, I think I read. Apple has the technology to make that work.
For me, that's one the biggest hurdle of the HEC since there is no one device per person model and it's not convenient to switch users if it takes time or even if the user has to remember they aren't the ones "logged in" to the TV.
One thing's for sure; this is a company who knows how to create buzz.
Think of it this way... Most media now relies on mobile devices for clicks and revenue and the revenue on mobile is all Apple (apps), Google (ads) and Facebook (social interaction and ads). They promote and cover Apple out of self-interest. Every news program I see today is constantly telling viewers to download their app!
We have ATT Uverse Wireless for the TV with rental boxes in the family room and 2 upstairs bedrooms. It attempts to do what you described earlier -- but doesn't work reliably and is expensive.
I like the idea of a personalized UI -- especially if some are watching and/or playing games, recording, enforceable ratings ... I would like to see each person have default access to his personal UI -- and a 1-tap (Siri) access to a family or home shared UI.
Voice controlled anything on the desktop makes less sense. We have trackpads and keyboards.
Regardless, it's coming. You'll see.
If it was going to be in OS X this time around, it would have already been in the DPs.
It is a lot to [I]want[/I], but it's also not anything that hasn't been done in part by others today or already used by Apple in other areas. It's all about taking the various instruments in an orchestra and composing it into a symphony, which Apple excels at in comparison to their competitors. That said, I'm not saying Apple [I]will[/I] do this, and I would be surprised if even 10% of my ideas get enacted, but it's [I]all[/I] technically possible with the world we live in today.
If it was going to be in OS X this time around, it would have already been in the DPs.
While that's typically true, it wouldn't be the first time a feature was added after the Developer Preview.
While that's typically true, it wouldn't be the first time a feature was added after the Developer Preview.
After seven of them? And when was that?
Try "give ME a hint" not "give US a hint"
Try "give ME a hint" not "give US a hint"
I did both. Local business wins out over snappy answer.
Oh yeah, agree 100%, I guess I came off sounding a bit daft there, but yeah, all that'd be pretty sweet!
Not at all, I just wanted to be clear about my lofty desires.
Note that I also detailed how I would want Apple to get into mobile payments years before they did and it's pretty much dead on, right down to the representational card numbers issued by the bank per device, so maybe Apple can show us all this in 2 weeks, or at least show up a foundation that will eventually support all I've said… but, frankly, I doubt it. If there hadn't been any other new products or services in awhile, then perhaps, but Apple has been very busy so I'm only expecting a medium bump for the home.
my lofty desires.
Only a matter of time!
The only question is how much it will cost. $99? I’m betting $149 or $199
Apple TV? Unless it comes with a touch screen controller it will be $69 or less. The big deal is a package of shows to replace cable and they want as many people as possible paying them a monthly fee like Apple Music.
You can watch it in a full resolution QuickTime window on a 5K iMac
I'm holding out for AppleTV Pro. I'm sick of consumer TVs. I need pro specs in my electronics to feel good about myself.