In the next reviews of the iPhone, if call consistency is still an issue I would expect a lot of bad publicity.
As we?ve discuss ad nauseam the differences in call quality are mainly do to the radio technology used. GSM is not better than CDMA and the 700MHz WCDMA is not better than 850MHz WCDMA for penetrating objects.
Why you keep ignoring that all carriers in the US have bad spots is beyond me. Your personal issues with AT&T in your neck of the woods does not necessarily coincide with other people in other places.
Something tells me that those applications weren't actually open at once... they just seemed to be.
Here you let yourself down. As an iPhone developer, I can totally disagree with you here.
iPhone is as capable as it can be in all areas due to its foundation of the OSX core. Nevertheless, Apple also DID create a whole new OS in the project. They created a whole new ultra-efficient movie system (Now ported back as QuickTime X) as well as Layer Kit, a low level, fundamental animation system that can work perfectly on very very low powered devices, which is now on both platforms as Core Animation. They also did heavy modification to the OS, in significant places, like Core Audio, etc.
The Apple APIs from Mac OS X that are cross platform existed and ran multiple applications when computers had a 10th the resources of an iPhone. The issue is NOT with OS X on the iPhone.
The issue for battery life is device-level features, especially the cellular radio and GPS. This has nothing to do with Mac OS X and the cross-ported API stack. The cellular radio is the issue with background applications. Internet access (which is the main reason an application wants to run in the background) will create major drains in battery life. Constant polling, open sockets, etc, are always going to be the iPhone's let down.
You need to think for a second about what you're talking about. Mac OS X ran perfectly on MACS with iPhone level capabilities. The issue is not the OS! The issue is device features.
Perhaps you should investigate 1) turning off 3G 2) lowering your lighting level 3) checking how much you're using your device, and how much you expect of it.
The iPhone is pretty average in battery life specs for 3G. The difference, however, is the way you use it that causes faster battery drain, not the device itself.
And yet another fine post with no silly retorts or insults. Simply put all this high flutting stuff we do drains the battery. I wonder is there something<ext battery?> I can plug in to the iphone to extend the battery life when running low ??
Something like the add on's to the ipods that allow us to voice record or play fm music.
the iPhone is really the first phone that maked me really happy!
People have always accepted that mobile phones where crappy and couldn't find the need to complain about it.. it just wasn't worth it!
Just like surfing on a nokia, it just wasn't worth it. the experience was more than crappy!
Yeah.. you could check you pop/imap email in plain text, just to get you updated. but replying wasn't very easy/efficient to do..
But now!
Even with Apple not adding all the futures other phones have, many where delighted with such a great experience. The user interface was of desktop class and many where stunned by all the effects and usability the device had..
As with standard pc manufactures and m$, they don't innovate for the user, they only apply standard components and copy!
As we’ve discuss ad nauseam the differences in call quality are mainly do to the radio technology used. GSM is not better than CDMA and the 700MHz WCDMA is not better than 850MHz WCDMA for penetrating objects.
Why you keep ignoring that all carriers in the US have bad spots is beyond me. Your personal issues with AT&T in your neck of the woods does not necessarily coincide with other people in other places.
AT&T has way too many weak spots and with all the data hungry wintel iphone users it will only get worse until the 4g is done or is it 7g now ??
Why teckspud hates AT&T? Well, he seems to hate everyone and everything moment to moment of course. HEY Solipsism you 2 guys must be good friends because you keep feeding him day and night. Full well knowing that teckspud is here only to agitate and wise crack. He is very witty and funny. But by now he feels to me weak and tasteless sad old bearded fat man sitting alone in mom's basement. Playing with all his names. Kid /seahawk /on and on. And yet you have endured much more than me . And still you feed him. StillYouFeedHim
Dude I fear you may be in that cold basement with him.
And yet another fine post with no silly retorts or insults. Simply put all this high flutting stuff we do drains the battery. I wonder is there something<ext battery?> I can plug in to the iphone to extend the battery life when running low ??
Something like the add on's to the ipods that allow us to voice record or play fm music.
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There are actually. Quite a few add-ons, etc. All 3rd party but they do a great job.
I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic, but its not so much what we do with it, its how often. We use the device every two minutes, unlike other mobile phones that we use once every hour or two. Then we wonder why it only has 1/10th the battery time.
If you look at the battery specs, they actually better many phones out there... but we just use it far more than them.
AT&T has way too many weak spots and with all the data hungry wintel iphone users it will only get worse until the 4g is done or isit 7g now ??
Why teckspud hates AT&T? Well he seems to hate everyone and everything moment to moment of course.HEY Solipsism you 2 guys must be good friends because you keep feeding him day and night. Full well knowing that teckspud is here only to agitate and wise crack. He is very witty and funny. But by now he feels to me weak and tasteless sad old bearded fat man sitting alone in mom's basement. Playing with all his names. kid /seahawk /on and on. and yet you have endured much more than me . and still you feed him. StillYouFeedHim
Dude i fear you may be in that cold basement with him.
One of the reasons I don't consider touching teckstud is, in terms of personal attacks, most of the people that complain about him cross that line against him before he crosses that line against anyone else. If you have an argument to make, fine, if you have an ad-hominem, then you're hurting your cause.
As we’ve discuss ad nauseam the differences in call quality are mainly do to the radio technology used. GSM is not better than CDMA and the 700MHz WCDMA is not better than 850MHz WCDMA for penetrating objects.
Why you keep ignoring that all carriers in the US have bad spots is beyond me. Your personal issues with AT&T in your neck of the woods does not necessarily coincide with other people in other places.
Again AT&T sucks. ANy other 3G network around the world doesn't have the problems this crappy network has in the US. But then you would probably accept the KoolAid carrier as long as it was attached to the iPhone. Dude- you are in denial- BIG TIME.
I don't write the review of AT&T or write the articles that rate it at the bottom of Consumer Reports. I'm not that omnipresent or as powerful as you all seem to think. And I don't morph into different profiles either.
"I have a business acquaintance that had the luxury of playing with the Pre for about a week. He's a BB user, and thinks the Pre will fade with user abandonment like the first gen Storm. Curiously he said the phone's quality and it's ability to keep your attention is LOW. We will see."
I pulled the above text from a post I made a couple days ago. I think other people are coming to the same realization as my friend did. Go Apple!
AT&T has way too many weak spots and with all the data hungry wintel iphone users it will only get worse until the 4g is done or isit 7g now ??
Why teckspud hates AT&T? Well he seems to hate everyone and everything moment to moment of course.HEY Solipsism you 2 guys must be good friends because you keep feeding him day and night. Full well knowing that teckspud is here only to agitate and wise crack. He is very witty and funny. But by now he feels to me weak and tasteless sad old bearded fat man sitting alone in mom's basement. Playing with all his names. kid /seahawk /on and on. and yet you have endured much more than me . and still you feed him. StillYouFeedHim
Dude i fear you may be in that cold basement with him.
First of all, I’m optimistic that people can learn and grow. Secondly, Seahawk Fan has been banned, which is ironic considered one of his last posts, which you replied to, was “Have you ever wondered why Tech Stud, Italian Kid and People like me are allowed to stay in this room without being kicked out.”
As for the AT&T, GSM Is lacking but I find my calls on 3G (WCDMA) more prevalent each month. I have never had an issue with dropped calls, but I don’t doubt that it is an issue with people in certain areas. GSM just isn’t as robust as CDMA.
I hope that AT&T has planned well for the next iPhone launch but I have my doubts and think that we’ll get a similar congestion like last year. Hopefully the tech pundits, like David Pogue, will give us another test this year so we can compare two equivalent testing scenarios a year apart. Hopefully some will also use last year’s iPhone so we can get a feel for how well AT&T has improved their network.
4G (LTE) is a long way off, even for Verizon. AT&T still has plenty of growth in 3G with better HSUPA/HSDPA and then HSPA+ before they’ll need to move to 4G. I’m in Las Vegas this weekend and my internet speed isn’t a good as usual, but still more than adequate and at only 2 bars in my hotel room, which may mean that they are still on 700MHz spectrum.
edit: Weird, it has my server being ~1000 miles away from my location. It lists my closest server as being in Kansas.
One of the reasons I don't consider touching teckstud is, in terms of personal attacks, most of the people that complain about him cross that line against him before he crosses that line against anyone else. If you have an argument to make, fine, if you have an ad-hominem, then you're hurting your cause.
How many times must he use the term Kool-Aid before it gets old. One, he never spells it right, and two, by now he must owe Kraft a fortune in copyright infringement. I’m more offended that he doesn’t at least try to think of a new term. I think pretty much every regular here could rewrite every post he’s ever done.
Addabox did a fine job of summing up pretty much everything he and others have said about the iPhone in a Pre parody. Quite funny.
There are actually. Quite a few add-ons, etc. All 3rd party but they do a great job.
I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic, but its not so much what we do with it, its how often. We use the device every two minutes, unlike other mobile phones that we use once every hour or two. Then we wonder why it only has 1/10th the battery time.
If you look at the battery specs, they actually better many phones out there... but we just use it far more than them.
No sarcastic. at all. I would use a add-on battery for my iphone and keep a re-charger in my pocket at all times. Being a new yorker you never know when you find your self in an extended adventure. My disaster kit would include >> My iphone with an add-on battery, an add-on voicer recorder, a sci-fi paperback in my back pocket and 3 fifty dollar bills and i am good for days, or day's and a half. I could stream HULU./ABC all night .
How many times must he use the term Kool-Aid before it gets old. One, he never spells it right, and two, by now he must owe Kraft a fortune in copyright infringement. I’m more offended that he doesn’t at least try to think of a new term. I think pretty much every regular here could rewrite every post he’s ever done.
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How many times do you use "WHINE" or 'COMPLAIN" ad nauseam whenever anyone differs from your opinion?
Speak about yourself- everyone on here knows you're like a broken record.
One of the reasons I don't consider touching teckstud is, in terms of personal attacks, most of the people that complain about him cross that line against him before he crosses that line against anyone else. If you have an argument to make, fine, if you have an ad-hominem, then you're hurting your cause.
Jeff I Iagree with you 100 percent. teckstud gets nailed first words out. So jeff I feel that both offended parties feed off each other.
What does ad-hominem mean? In the context you use it in?
Jeff, the real crime here is people who post here under more than one name. Those people are scum buckets .
How many times do you use "WHINE" or 'COMPLAIN" ad nauseam whenever anyone differs from your opinion?
Speak about yourself- everyone on here knows you're like a broken record.
I differed with Melgross? opinion all day yesterday, yet would have described him as whining or complaining. If you can?t see that making a post simply to state how much the iPhone and/or AT&T sucks is whining and complaining then there doesn?t seems to be much hope for you. There are pros and cons with everything, as most posters here point out, but you think if they like the iPhone or are satisfied with AT&T then they are drinking Kool-Aid®. A little balance and forethought in your posts would go a long way to removing your troll eke-name.
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I wouldn?t call iPhone OS X a problem with the iPhone.
No- just making a phone call is (AT&T).
In the next reviews of the iPhone, if call consistency is still an issue I would expect a lot of bad publicity.
No- just making a phone call is (AT&T).
In the next reviews of the iPhone, if call consistency is still an issue I would expect a lot of bad publicity.
As we?ve discuss ad nauseam the differences in call quality are mainly do to the radio technology used. GSM is not better than CDMA and the 700MHz WCDMA is not better than 850MHz WCDMA for penetrating objects.
Why you keep ignoring that all carriers in the US have bad spots is beyond me. Your personal issues with AT&T in your neck of the woods does not necessarily coincide with other people in other places.
Something tells me that those applications weren't actually open at once... they just seemed to be.
Here you let yourself down. As an iPhone developer, I can totally disagree with you here.
iPhone is as capable as it can be in all areas due to its foundation of the OSX core. Nevertheless, Apple also DID create a whole new OS in the project. They created a whole new ultra-efficient movie system (Now ported back as QuickTime X) as well as Layer Kit, a low level, fundamental animation system that can work perfectly on very very low powered devices, which is now on both platforms as Core Animation. They also did heavy modification to the OS, in significant places, like Core Audio, etc.
The Apple APIs from Mac OS X that are cross platform existed and ran multiple applications when computers had a 10th the resources of an iPhone. The issue is NOT with OS X on the iPhone.
The issue for battery life is device-level features, especially the cellular radio and GPS. This has nothing to do with Mac OS X and the cross-ported API stack. The cellular radio is the issue with background applications. Internet access (which is the main reason an application wants to run in the background) will create major drains in battery life. Constant polling, open sockets, etc, are always going to be the iPhone's let down.
You need to think for a second about what you're talking about. Mac OS X ran perfectly on MACS with iPhone level capabilities. The issue is not the OS! The issue is device features.
Perhaps you should investigate 1) turning off 3G 2) lowering your lighting level 3) checking how much you're using your device, and how much you expect of it.
The iPhone is pretty average in battery life specs for 3G. The difference, however, is the way you use it that causes faster battery drain, not the device itself.
And yet another fine post with no silly retorts or insults. Simply put all this high flutting stuff we do drains the battery. I wonder is there something<ext battery?> I can plug in to the iphone to extend the battery life when running low ??
Something like the add on's to the ipods that allow us to voice record or play fm music.
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People have always accepted that mobile phones where crappy and couldn't find the need to complain about it.. it just wasn't worth it!
Just like surfing on a nokia, it just wasn't worth it. the experience was more than crappy!
Yeah.. you could check you pop/imap email in plain text, just to get you updated. but replying wasn't very easy/efficient to do..
But now!
Even with Apple not adding all the futures other phones have, many where delighted with such a great experience. The user interface was of desktop class and many where stunned by all the effects and usability the device had..
As with standard pc manufactures and m$, they don't innovate for the user, they only apply standard components and copy!
As we’ve discuss ad nauseam the differences in call quality are mainly do to the radio technology used. GSM is not better than CDMA and the 700MHz WCDMA is not better than 850MHz WCDMA for penetrating objects.
Why you keep ignoring that all carriers in the US have bad spots is beyond me. Your personal issues with AT&T in your neck of the woods does not necessarily coincide with other people in other places.
AT&T has way too many weak spots and with all the data hungry wintel iphone users it will only get worse until the 4g is done or is it 7g now ??
Why teckspud hates AT&T? Well, he seems to hate everyone and everything moment to moment of course. HEY Solipsism you 2 guys must be good friends because you keep feeding him day and night. Full well knowing that teckspud is here only to agitate and wise crack. He is very witty and funny. But by now he feels to me weak and tasteless sad old bearded fat man sitting alone in mom's basement. Playing with all his names. Kid /seahawk /on and on. And yet you have endured much more than me . And still you feed him. StillYouFeedHim
Dude I fear you may be in that cold basement with him.
And yet another fine post with no silly retorts or insults. Simply put all this high flutting stuff we do drains the battery. I wonder is there something<ext battery?> I can plug in to the iphone to extend the battery life when running low ??
Something like the add on's to the ipods that allow us to voice record or play fm music.
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There are actually. Quite a few add-ons, etc. All 3rd party but they do a great job.
I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic, but its not so much what we do with it, its how often. We use the device every two minutes, unlike other mobile phones that we use once every hour or two. Then we wonder why it only has 1/10th the battery time.
If you look at the battery specs, they actually better many phones out there... but we just use it far more than them.
AT&T has way too many weak spots and with all the data hungry wintel iphone users it will only get worse until the 4g is done or isit 7g now ??
Why teckspud hates AT&T? Well he seems to hate everyone and everything moment to moment of course.HEY Solipsism you 2 guys must be good friends because you keep feeding him day and night. Full well knowing that teckspud is here only to agitate and wise crack. He is very witty and funny. But by now he feels to me weak and tasteless sad old bearded fat man sitting alone in mom's basement. Playing with all his names. kid /seahawk /on and on. and yet you have endured much more than me . and still you feed him. StillYouFeedHim
Dude i fear you may be in that cold basement with him.
One of the reasons I don't consider touching teckstud is, in terms of personal attacks, most of the people that complain about him cross that line against him before he crosses that line against anyone else. If you have an argument to make, fine, if you have an ad-hominem, then you're hurting your cause.
As we’ve discuss ad nauseam the differences in call quality are mainly do to the radio technology used. GSM is not better than CDMA and the 700MHz WCDMA is not better than 850MHz WCDMA for penetrating objects.
Why you keep ignoring that all carriers in the US have bad spots is beyond me. Your personal issues with AT&T in your neck of the woods does not necessarily coincide with other people in other places.
Again AT&T sucks. ANy other 3G network around the world doesn't have the problems this crappy network has in the US. But then you would probably accept the KoolAid carrier as long as it was attached to the iPhone. Dude- you are in denial- BIG TIME.
I don't write the review of AT&T or write the articles that rate it at the bottom of Consumer Reports. I'm not that omnipresent or as powerful as you all seem to think. And I don't morph into different profiles either.
I pulled the above text from a post I made a couple days ago. I think other people are coming to the same realization as my friend did. Go Apple!
AT&T has way too many weak spots and with all the data hungry wintel iphone users it will only get worse until the 4g is done or isit 7g now ??
Why teckspud hates AT&T? Well he seems to hate everyone and everything moment to moment of course.HEY Solipsism you 2 guys must be good friends because you keep feeding him day and night. Full well knowing that teckspud is here only to agitate and wise crack. He is very witty and funny. But by now he feels to me weak and tasteless sad old bearded fat man sitting alone in mom's basement. Playing with all his names. kid /seahawk /on and on. and yet you have endured much more than me . and still you feed him. StillYouFeedHim
Dude i fear you may be in that cold basement with him.
First of all, I’m optimistic that people can learn and grow. Secondly, Seahawk Fan has been banned, which is ironic considered one of his last posts, which you replied to, was “Have you ever wondered why Tech Stud, Italian Kid and People like me are allowed to stay in this room without being kicked out.”
As for the AT&T, GSM Is lacking but I find my calls on 3G (WCDMA) more prevalent each month. I have never had an issue with dropped calls, but I don’t doubt that it is an issue with people in certain areas. GSM just isn’t as robust as CDMA.
I hope that AT&T has planned well for the next iPhone launch but I have my doubts and think that we’ll get a similar congestion like last year. Hopefully the tech pundits, like David Pogue, will give us another test this year so we can compare two equivalent testing scenarios a year apart. Hopefully some will also use last year’s iPhone so we can get a feel for how well AT&T has improved their network.
4G (LTE) is a long way off, even for Verizon. AT&T still has plenty of growth in 3G with better HSUPA/HSDPA and then HSPA+ before they’ll need to move to 4G. I’m in Las Vegas this weekend and my internet speed isn’t a good as usual, but still more than adequate and at only 2 bars in my hotel room, which may mean that they are still on 700MHz spectrum.edit: Weird, it has my server being ~1000 miles away from my location. It lists my closest server as being in Kansas.
I'm not that omnipresent or as powerful as you all seem to think.
I think I speak for everyone when I say we have never thought you omnipresent or powerful in any way.
One of the reasons I don't consider touching teckstud is, in terms of personal attacks, most of the people that complain about him cross that line against him before he crosses that line against anyone else. If you have an argument to make, fine, if you have an ad-hominem, then you're hurting your cause.
How many times must he use the term Kool-Aid before it gets old. One, he never spells it right, and two, by now he must owe Kraft a fortune in copyright infringement. I’m more offended that he doesn’t at least try to think of a new term. I think pretty much every regular here could rewrite every post he’s ever done.
Addabox did a fine job of summing up pretty much everything he and others have said about the iPhone in a Pre parody. Quite funny.
I think I speak for everyone when I say we have never thought you omnipresent or powerful in any way.
There are actually. Quite a few add-ons, etc. All 3rd party but they do a great job.
I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic, but its not so much what we do with it, its how often. We use the device every two minutes, unlike other mobile phones that we use once every hour or two. Then we wonder why it only has 1/10th the battery time.
If you look at the battery specs, they actually better many phones out there... but we just use it far more than them.
No sarcastic. at all. I would use a add-on battery for my iphone and keep a re-charger in my pocket at all times. Being a new yorker you never know when you find your self in an extended adventure. My disaster kit would include >> My iphone with an add-on battery, an add-on voicer recorder, a sci-fi paperback in my back pocket and 3 fifty dollar bills and i am good for days, or day's and a half. I could stream HULU./ABC all night .
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How many times must he use the term Kool-Aid before it gets old. One, he never spells it right, and two, by now he must owe Kraft a fortune in copyright infringement. I’m more offended that he doesn’t at least try to think of a new term. I think pretty much every regular here could rewrite every post he’s ever done.
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How many times do you use "WHINE" or 'COMPLAIN" ad nauseam whenever anyone differs from your opinion?
Speak about yourself- everyone on here knows you're like a broken record.
That was a joke and he fell for it. He will make any post just to add up his posting numbers.
One of the reasons I don't consider touching teckstud is, in terms of personal attacks, most of the people that complain about him cross that line against him before he crosses that line against anyone else. If you have an argument to make, fine, if you have an ad-hominem, then you're hurting your cause.
Jeff I Iagree with you 100 percent. teckstud gets nailed first words out. So jeff I feel that both offended parties feed off each other.
What does ad-hominem mean? In the context you use it in?
Jeff, the real crime here is people who post here under more than one name. Those people are scum buckets .
peace
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I think I speak for everyone when I say we have never thought you omnipresent or powerful in any way.
WTF0-Then why must you constantly challenge me with your idiotic "Whine" or "Complain" posts?
You really fatter yourself if you think you speak for everyone. AS if?
How many times do you use "WHINE" or 'COMPLAIN" ad nauseam whenever anyone differs from your opinion?
Speak about yourself- everyone on here knows you're like a broken record.
I differed with Melgross? opinion all day yesterday, yet would have described him as whining or complaining. If you can?t see that making a post simply to state how much the iPhone and/or AT&T sucks is whining and complaining then there doesn?t seems to be much hope for you. There are pros and cons with everything, as most posters here point out, but you think if they like the iPhone or are satisfied with AT&T then they are drinking Kool-Aid®. A little balance and forethought in your posts would go a long way to removing your troll eke-name.
which may mean that they are still on 700MHz spectrum.edit: Weird, it has my server being ~1000 miles away from my location. It lists my closest server as being in Kansas.
Seahawk banned ?? lol
Dude your speed is so low. Damn i feel bad for you. Anyway enjoy Las Vegas !!!! PLAY 12 and 18 for me on the roulette wheel !!
Get up right now and walk away from your computer.Go find some daylight !!
peace
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