I don't know about email, but certainly the Phone runs in the background. And then of course there are all the hidden functions that run in the background too. So adding one more app would not be doubling the number of apps running in the background, it would only add a small percentage more activity. Plus, of course, the selected app would not always be running in the background, only when you actually used it and didn't exit it (which is a function Apple would have to enable somehow - maybe a special X that appears on the "blessed" app).
It?s not just apps, but a lot of frameworks that are running. The Mail app does run in the background to check and load mail, even if you have it setup manually and then leave the app it still completes it?s task, unlike other apps. I could be wrong, but I think that mobile Safari in 3.0 is finishing loading after I leave the app. At the very least, it?s not reloading every page when you jump back into the app like it started doing in v2.0.
Besides the phone, iPod, clock (timer/alarm), springboard, Mail process and MobileMe sync processes I don?t know of exactly what else is running but the iPhone seems to use more than half the RAM at any one time for the system. If you have a jailbroken iPhone you can install SysInfo to see all the processes running.
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As to dropped calls, I actually had that issue. It turned out to be my sim card, not the phone. The Apple folks referred me to an AT&T store, who promptly replaced it after a few questions and my dropped call issues went away.
That is interesting. I haven?t heard about the SIM card being the cause for dropped calls unless your phone is losing the SIM card connection, but I?d figure that would result in the device saying ?No SIM card detected?.
Welcome to AI, glad to see some rational new posters on these forums.
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Make that reservation at Nobu 702/693 5090
I ate there last night for the first time. I had a great time and the food was good too.
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Why? If AppleInsider had a more secure way of keeping someone out rather than email verification I'd be more concerned.
AI ever thought of Mac Address for verification? It may be a little more secure.
solipsism
brucep
addabox
Under any name I wil always be here to keep Shit heads like you in check.
What was that yesterday about people like you don?t get banned.
In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sublayer. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number. It may also be known as an Ethernet Hardware Address (EHA), hardware address, adapter address, or physical address.
Yeah, and the acronym is MAC, not Mac. I guess I should have added a "mild sarcasm" tag.....
In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sublayer. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number. It may also be known as an Ethernet Hardware Address (EHA), hardware address, adapter address, or physical address.
He was goofing on you.
As for you suggestion for AI to ban by MAC address that seems a little extreme. Post banned trolls either go away or come back with a better attitude, not by making their first post a caustic statement calling people shitheads and thinking that they have found some previously unknown loophole.
BTW, MAC addresses can be changed. They are merely the digital representation of the BIA.
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Nokia uses QtWebKit and it's not a full WebKit port.
Nokia and Mozilla have been using Qt to port Firefox 3 to the mobile platform as Fennec, a small fox, for over a year now. I hope they get this done quickly because Mozilla has really dropped the ball on the mobile platform at this point. With the growth of smartphones and internet capable PMPs it?s possible that WebKit could beat Gecko (Firefox) by installed base within a relatively short time.
As for you suggestion for AI to ban by MAC address that seems a little extreme. Post banned trolls either go away or come back with a better attitude, not by making their first post a caustic statement calling people shitheads and thinking that they have found some previously unknown loophole.
BTW, MAC addresses can be changed. They are merely the digital representation of the BIA.
Yes it can but not as simply as creating a new email address in 1 minute.
You are no one to speak of manners or anything tech. You are a wanna be with quick access to google and a thesaurus to make yourself sound smart.
You always back peddle when you are called on it and in general terms you can understand you are an arrogant bastard.
If the iphone has the same specs or better we better get multitasking apple..
Remember that the Pre?s apps are pretty much ac OS X Dashboard Widgets. I do think Apple wold be able to offer an option to allocate 32MB(?) of the 256MB for background apps. Keeping it sandboxed would allow 3rd-party developers the ease of not having to work around varying app usage that could negatively affect their development process. I?ve read that this is one of the downfalls of Android.
While it seems possible, will they have it ready immediately? Will they require developers to run their app through a more restrictive acceptance process to make sure that the CPU and RAM usage falls within acceptable usage?
Since Push Notifications have just gotten out of the testing phase, I?m not sure Apple will try will get this going right away when they have other things on their plate to deal with, but I do hope they have worked it out.
See you back here soon, with your new name/IP address/MAC address/whatever.....
I request he comes back with new attitude. He writes like he was born yesterday, which is a good thing because we can start his personality from scratch.
PS: You’d think he’d have figured out how to quote a reply at this point. Though it comes pre-quoted so he is purposely messing up the formatting. I can’t think of a single rational reason for that. Oh, there I go trying to use the word rational in reference with Seahawk Fan. No wonder I can’t think of a reason.
As I already stated. English isn't my first language. However the meaning of a word is something totally different than the spelling of a word. And the word banter as I learned the word and after looking it up in a dictionary is not a synonym for talking. As I already stated, it means to speak to or address in a witty manner. And I never did that. I never wrote to him in a witty manner. That was my only point. But thanks for pointing out that spelling mistake.
I request he comes back with new attitude. He writes like he was born yesterday, which is a good thing because we can start his personality from scratch.
PS: You’d think he’d have figured out how to quote a reply at this point. Though it comes pre-quoted so he is purposely messing up the formatting. I can’t think of a single rational reason for that. Oh, there I go trying to use the word rational in reference with Seahawk Fan. No wonder I can’t think of a reason.
Clearly this post is the result of poring over a "thesaurus" (?) in order to "sound smart."
Your original post, sans thesaurus, would have read something like:
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He don't know how to make a quote here. It makes quote by itself, so he do it on purpose. Don't know why. LOL, he make no sense so no wonder.
I'm not happy with the idea of constantly switching 3G on and off. I use my device sporadically throughout the day, maybe once every 5-10mins or so for 30seconds to 2 minutes at a time. I would be switching 3G on and off about 20 times a day at least - major hassle. Full screen brightness is the level I am comfortable with.
A battery that lasts to the end of the business day would be fine instead of needing to be charged midway through the day
Yes S60 renders pages with full desktop web browser engine - surely you know this already?. And if all of those other aspects were important to me, I could have them too (N97), but they aren't, so I'm not so fussed there.
Mmmm... If the S60 is as good as you say, and the iPhone as bad... Why do you have an iPhone at all? You could just use the S60 and spare yourself (and the rest of us) your disappointment.
That's cool -- I did not know that! How does a lay person do that?
What Cameronj posted. I?ve never done it on any PC OS. I?ve done it on routers, but to state that means I?m lying because Seahawk Fan is adamant that I have no technical knowledge at all. He probably also thinks he?s levelheaded and compos mentis. He probably thinks I had to look up that term, too.
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Originally Posted by MacShack
As I already stated. English isn't my first language. However the meaning of a word is something totally different than the spelling of a word. And the word banter as I learned the word and after looking it up in a dictionary is not a synonym for talking. As I already stated, it means to speak to or address in a witty manner. And I never did that. I never wrote to him in a witty manner. That was my only point. But thanks for pointing out that spelling mistake.
Wilco probably won?t reply back and he doesn?t really care about having a conversation. He just does guerilla-like posting every now and then, but they are very tame.
Why do you people always conveniently forget that Smartphone OSs have been multitasking for years
Ok, this I agree with...
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smoothly and elegantly?
That I disagree with. Heck, you can't even terminate programs on windows mobile without resorting to third party apps or development tools!
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You banter on about it as if it was this new fangled feature that's in its infancy.
Intelligent multitasking that's user oriented is a new fangled feature.
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The iPhone doesn't have it simply because Apple didn't design the OS to be lean enough for the hardware it runs on. They could have quite easily done it if they had worked harder at it to reduce the footprint of the OS and apps, but they didn't, and that was their choice.
Wow, what incredible insight. How long have you been on the iPhone dev team?
How about this - like with any project, there are a list of goals and features. Those get prioritized. Since Apple is user oriented instead of useless feature, geek checklist oriented, multi-tasking is further down on the list. Just like copy paste and the SDK. So far their strategy seems to be effective (their sales success speaks volumes), and only improving.
Bottom line - yes, the iPhone could stand for more features like multitasking. But here's the deal - even if they froze the OS right now it's still light years ahead of any other smartphone on the market - and from I have seen, that includes the Pre. Thing is, Apple isn't standing still. Unlike any previous smartphone (or PDA) I have owned, they are pushing out updates. Regularly. I get new functionality, supported by the manufacturer (not hacked in), on a routine basis. How cool is that?
NO. but the Pre would be both - smaller and thinner. My point is Apple should have had a smaller form factor of the iPhone ( another version like all phones have). It could have been a slider , making it smaller, but Pre has beat them to the punch.
Wilco probably won?t reply back and he doesn?t really care about having a conversation. He just does guerilla-like posting every now and then, but they are very tame.
Actually the bad sim that caused the dropped calls caused no errors in and of itself, other than the sporadic "call failed". It didn't report that the sim wasn't inserted or anything of the sort. The AT&T folks told me there are two issues common with sim cards. The contacts will get dirty or degraded causing dropped calls, or the card itself will warp causing the same issue.
If your having dropped calls, just take it to an AT&T store and request a new one. It might solve your issues. I didn't have to pay for mine, although I'm told that they will sometimes try to charge you for a new sim.
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I don't know about email, but certainly the Phone runs in the background. And then of course there are all the hidden functions that run in the background too. So adding one more app would not be doubling the number of apps running in the background, it would only add a small percentage more activity. Plus, of course, the selected app would not always be running in the background, only when you actually used it and didn't exit it (which is a function Apple would have to enable somehow - maybe a special X that appears on the "blessed" app).
It?s not just apps, but a lot of frameworks that are running. The Mail app does run in the background to check and load mail, even if you have it setup manually and then leave the app it still completes it?s task, unlike other apps. I could be wrong, but I think that mobile Safari in 3.0 is finishing loading after I leave the app. At the very least, it?s not reloading every page when you jump back into the app like it started doing in v2.0.
Besides the phone, iPod, clock (timer/alarm), springboard, Mail process and MobileMe sync processes I don?t know of exactly what else is running but the iPhone seems to use more than half the RAM at any one time for the system. If you have a jailbroken iPhone you can install SysInfo to see all the processes running.
As to dropped calls, I actually had that issue. It turned out to be my sim card, not the phone. The Apple folks referred me to an AT&T store, who promptly replaced it after a few questions and my dropped call issues went away.
That is interesting. I haven?t heard about the SIM card being the cause for dropped calls unless your phone is losing the SIM card connection, but I?d figure that would result in the device saying ?No SIM card detected?.
Welcome to AI, glad to see some rational new posters on these forums.
Make that reservation at Nobu 702/693 5090
I ate there last night for the first time. I had a great time and the food was good too.
Why? If AppleInsider had a more secure way of keeping someone out rather than email verification I'd be more concerned.
AI ever thought of Mac Address for verification? It may be a little more secure.
solipsism
brucep
addabox
Under any name I wil always be here to keep Shit heads like you in check.
What was that yesterday about people like you don?t get banned.
And you?ll get banned again in 3? 2? 1...
In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sublayer. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number. It may also be known as an Ethernet Hardware Address (EHA), hardware address, adapter address, or physical address.
Yeah, and the acronym is MAC, not Mac. I guess I should have added a "mild sarcasm" tag.....
While I don't mind walking around with an iPod Touch in my pocket, anything thicker (iPhone) is simply to large.
I walk around with a wad a cash at least twice as thick as my iPhone and it doesn't bother me a bit.
In computer networking, a Media Access Control address (MAC address) is a unique identifier assigned to most network adapters or network interface cards (NICs) by the manufacturer for identification, and used in the Media Access Control protocol sublayer. If assigned by the manufacturer, a MAC address usually encodes the manufacturer's registered identification number. It may also be known as an Ethernet Hardware Address (EHA), hardware address, adapter address, or physical address.
He was goofing on you.
As for you suggestion for AI to ban by MAC address that seems a little extreme. Post banned trolls either go away or come back with a better attitude, not by making their first post a caustic statement calling people shitheads and thinking that they have found some previously unknown loophole.
BTW, MAC addresses can be changed. They are merely the digital representation of the BIA.
Nokia uses QtWebKit and it's not a full WebKit port.
Nokia and Mozilla have been using Qt to port Firefox 3 to the mobile platform as Fennec, a small fox, for over a year now. I hope they get this done quickly because Mozilla has really dropped the ball on the mobile platform at this point. With the growth of smartphones and internet capable PMPs it?s possible that WebKit could beat Gecko (Firefox) by installed base within a relatively short time.
If the iphone has the same specs or better we better get multitasking apple..
BTW, MAC addresses can be changed. They are merely the digital representation of the BIA.
That's cool -- I did not know that! How does a lay person do that?
Yeah, and the acronym is MAC, not Mac. I guess I should have added a "mild sarcasm" tag.....
That's not as bad as all the dummies who talk about their Apple computer as a MAC.
As for you suggestion for AI to ban by MAC address that seems a little extreme. Post banned trolls either go away or come back with a better attitude, not by making their first post a caustic statement calling people shitheads and thinking that they have found some previously unknown loophole.
BTW, MAC addresses can be changed. They are merely the digital representation of the BIA.
Yes it can but not as simply as creating a new email address in 1 minute.
You are no one to speak of manners or anything tech. You are a wanna be with quick access to google and a thesaurus to make yourself sound smart.
You always back peddle when you are called on it and in general terms you can understand you are an arrogant bastard.
Now 3, 2, 1.
That's cool -- I did not know that! How does a lay person do that?
It's super easy
http://www.tech-faq.com/change-mac-address.shtml
Just a registry change.
You always back peddle when you are called on it and in general terms you can understand you are an arrogant bastard.
Oh wow. I guess there's no backpedalling with you....... </mild sarcasm>
And, as to the latter part of your comment, I suppose it 'bye for now.
See you back here soon, with your new name/IP address/MAC address/whatever.....
Pre - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 and 256MB of Ram
If the iphone has the same specs or better we better get multitasking apple..
Remember that the Pre?s apps are pretty much ac OS X Dashboard Widgets. I do think Apple wold be able to offer an option to allocate 32MB(?) of the 256MB for background apps. Keeping it sandboxed would allow 3rd-party developers the ease of not having to work around varying app usage that could negatively affect their development process. I?ve read that this is one of the downfalls of Android.
While it seems possible, will they have it ready immediately? Will they require developers to run their app through a more restrictive acceptance process to make sure that the CPU and RAM usage falls within acceptable usage?
Since Push Notifications have just gotten out of the testing phase, I?m not sure Apple will try will get this going right away when they have other things on their plate to deal with, but I do hope they have worked it out.
See you back here soon, with your new name/IP address/MAC address/whatever.....
I request he comes back with new attitude. He writes like he was born yesterday, which is a good thing because we can start his personality from scratch.
PS: You’d think he’d have figured out how to quote a reply at this point. Though it comes pre-quoted so he is purposely messing up the formatting. I can’t think of a single rational reason for that. Oh, there I go trying to use the word rational in reference with Seahawk Fan. No wonder I can’t think of a reason.
You're arguing with the guy who wrote:
"To a certain extend your comment..."
As I already stated. English isn't my first language. However the meaning of a word is something totally different than the spelling of a word. And the word banter as I learned the word and after looking it up in a dictionary is not a synonym for talking. As I already stated, it means to speak to or address in a witty manner. And I never did that. I never wrote to him in a witty manner. That was my only point. But thanks for pointing out that spelling mistake.
I request he comes back with new attitude. He writes like he was born yesterday, which is a good thing because we can start his personality from scratch.
PS: You’d think he’d have figured out how to quote a reply at this point. Though it comes pre-quoted so he is purposely messing up the formatting. I can’t think of a single rational reason for that. Oh, there I go trying to use the word rational in reference with Seahawk Fan. No wonder I can’t think of a reason.
Clearly this post is the result of poring over a "thesaurus" (?) in order to "sound smart."
Your original post, sans thesaurus, would have read something like:
He don't know how to make a quote here. It makes quote by itself, so he do it on purpose. Don't know why. LOL, he make no sense so no wonder.
I'm not happy with the idea of constantly switching 3G on and off. I use my device sporadically throughout the day, maybe once every 5-10mins or so for 30seconds to 2 minutes at a time. I would be switching 3G on and off about 20 times a day at least - major hassle. Full screen brightness is the level I am comfortable with.
A battery that lasts to the end of the business day would be fine instead of needing to be charged midway through the day
Yes S60 renders pages with full desktop web browser engine - surely you know this already?. And if all of those other aspects were important to me, I could have them too (N97), but they aren't, so I'm not so fussed there.
Mmmm... If the S60 is as good as you say, and the iPhone as bad... Why do you have an iPhone at all? You could just use the S60 and spare yourself (and the rest of us) your disappointment.
Dick
That's cool -- I did not know that! How does a lay person do that?
What Cameronj posted. I?ve never done it on any PC OS. I?ve done it on routers, but to state that means I?m lying because Seahawk Fan is adamant that I have no technical knowledge at all. He probably also thinks he?s levelheaded and compos mentis. He probably thinks I had to look up that term, too.
As I already stated. English isn't my first language. However the meaning of a word is something totally different than the spelling of a word. And the word banter as I learned the word and after looking it up in a dictionary is not a synonym for talking. As I already stated, it means to speak to or address in a witty manner. And I never did that. I never wrote to him in a witty manner. That was my only point. But thanks for pointing out that spelling mistake.
Wilco probably won?t reply back and he doesn?t really care about having a conversation. He just does guerilla-like posting every now and then, but they are very tame.
Why do you people always conveniently forget that Smartphone OSs have been multitasking for years
Ok, this I agree with...
smoothly and elegantly?
That I disagree with. Heck, you can't even terminate programs on windows mobile without resorting to third party apps or development tools!
You banter on about it as if it was this new fangled feature that's in its infancy.
Intelligent multitasking that's user oriented is a new fangled feature.
The iPhone doesn't have it simply because Apple didn't design the OS to be lean enough for the hardware it runs on. They could have quite easily done it if they had worked harder at it to reduce the footprint of the OS and apps, but they didn't, and that was their choice.
Wow, what incredible insight. How long have you been on the iPhone dev team?
How about this - like with any project, there are a list of goals and features. Those get prioritized. Since Apple is user oriented instead of useless feature, geek checklist oriented, multi-tasking is further down on the list. Just like copy paste and the SDK. So far their strategy seems to be effective (their sales success speaks volumes), and only improving.
Bottom line - yes, the iPhone could stand for more features like multitasking. But here's the deal - even if they froze the OS right now it's still light years ahead of any other smartphone on the market - and from I have seen, that includes the Pre. Thing is, Apple isn't standing still. Unlike any previous smartphone (or PDA) I have owned, they are pushing out updates. Regularly. I get new functionality, supported by the manufacturer (not hacked in), on a routine basis. How cool is that?
NO. but the Pre would be both - smaller and thinner. My point is Apple should have had a smaller form factor of the iPhone ( another version like all phones have). It could have been a slider , making it smaller, but Pre has beat them to the punch.
With apologies to Shel Silverstein:
All the Woulda-Coulda-Shouldas
Layin' in the sun,
Talkin' 'bout the things
They (Apple) woulda coulda shoulda done...
But those Woulda-Coulda-Shouldas
All ran away and hid
From one little Did.
Wilco probably won?t reply back and he doesn?t really care about having a conversation. He just does guerilla-like posting every now and then, but they are very tame.
That's good to know.
If your having dropped calls, just take it to an AT&T store and request a new one. It might solve your issues. I didn't have to pay for mine, although I'm told that they will sometimes try to charge you for a new sim.