Panther 7B** Builds Discussion (images on page 2 & 5)

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  • Reply 601 of 1176
    anandanand Posts: 285member
    Close but still some bugs to work out. Newtork and mail issues mainly. Also, CD burning is slow - real slow. I predicit November - December as the release date.
  • Reply 602 of 1176
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    What a shame. I won't order a G5 until it comes pre-installed with Panther. But no doubt, they will have faster machines after Christmas so it will be a two edged sword.
  • Reply 603 of 1176
    anandanand Posts: 285member
    Hey, that is just my opinion. I am also probably wrong as well! Everyone else thinks that it will be announced in Sept and ship in Oct.
  • Reply 604 of 1176
    ny152ny152 Posts: 1member
    Okay everyone 7B49 has been seeded. Anyone have any first hand knowledge as to what is different from 7B44?



    Thanks in advance



    NY152
  • Reply 605 of 1176
    jlljll Posts: 2,713member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NY152

    Okay everyone 7B49 has been seeded. Anyone have any first hand knowledge as to what is different from 7B44?



    Bugfixes - no new stuff.
  • Reply 606 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JLL

    Bugfixes - no new stuff.



    Is the Mail attachment bug fixed, or better at least?
  • Reply 607 of 1176
    some changes though to the 'selected icon' look

    the stroke around the shape is lighter so it only

    shows up on darker BG (like on desktop) and not on white, giving

    the impression that with white BG (in Finder window)

    its only a gray shape without stroke



    much better imo
  • Reply 608 of 1176
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by panicX

    some changes though to the 'selected icon' look

    the stroke around the shape is lighter so it only

    shows up on darker BG and not on white, giving

    the impression that with white BG (in Finder window)

    its only a gray shape without stroke



    much better imo




    What about other stuff? Does the bin empty, does smb work again. How do you rate stability against Jaguar?
  • Reply 609 of 1176
    panicxpanicx Posts: 37member
    superfast build, trash empties, filevault works,

    system prefs still quits when pressed on close window button,

    login/logout is superfast



    what bugs me about Panther is that newly created finderwindows,

    preferences screens, etc open glued either to the top menubar

    or top menubar and far left and not sort of center screen anymore
  • Reply 610 of 1176
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Even after you move them to new locales and close (then re-open) the window?
  • Reply 611 of 1176
    panicxpanicx Posts: 37member
    once you drag the window to the place you want it will stay

    but every new folder you open will open in the top LEFT corner

    this is somethin you can not change offcourse coz it is a new

    folder/window

    ( edited, it said RIGHT instead of LEFT corner)



    preferences screens like from Finder, Addressbook or Safari will always

    openin the system preset way, if you drag them to desired place

    say middle of screen (wasn't this in the Aqua H I guidedlines?)

    they will open in system preset way next time

    Finder prefs for instance always opens glued to the menubar





    to cut a long story short many screens/windows will not open

    on the place you drag/specify but the system preset next time
  • Reply 612 of 1176
    frykefryke Posts: 217member
    7B49 feels quite finished to me on first look. Toast 5.2.1 works again. For me, most windows open where I left them the last time. For example: Finder's Preferences window. So I can't confirm what the other person up there reported.



    The System Preferences window comes centered and at the top of the main screen everytime I open them. Fine with me, doesn't look wrong. Closing the window indeed closes the application, which is the _right_ way according to Apple's own HIG for one-window applications.



    No crashes so far. No visual glitches so far. Everything looking quite perfect.



    ceterum censeo brushed metal esse delendam. (at least in the finder...)
  • Reply 613 of 1176
    panicxpanicx Posts: 37member
    Just to be sure... with finder preferences I do not mean Apple-J

    on the keyboard while on desktop but Menubar>Finder>preferences

    So you can drag it to the center middle, close it and next time

    the pref window will open in center middle and not glued to

    menubar (top of screen)?



    for the rest loads of stuff seems to open in top right corner

    instead of center screen, like brand new Finder window

    (didnt they open center screen in Jag?)or documents

    opened in preview etc



    one can argue if Sys Prefs is truly a one window app or an app

    with many windows made into one...

    its silly though that they added a menu to the Dockicon which

    only works when the app is active. Now what I try to do is hide it, although

    I forget and still close it, and then the Dock menu is useless
  • Reply 614 of 1176
    frykefryke Posts: 217member
    That's _just_ what I meant, yes... And new Finder windows open where I last left them, not somewhere funny... But also not just centered or anything. But that was like that since 10.0, iirc.
  • Reply 615 of 1176
    panicxpanicx Posts: 37member
    oke to clear the miscommunication:



    I mean...



    create a new folder on the desktop and open it, where does it open?

    (...as do many other things, newly downloaded ~and opened from the desktop~ DMG's for instance)



    That folder will open where I left it next time and

    a new Finder window as in apple-N as well, sure



    now create and open a new folder on the desktop in 10.2, where does it open?



    can anybody else go to the menubar>Finder (next to Apple-menu)

    then choose 'preferences'. Drag that window to the bottom of your

    screen.

    Close it and tell me where it opens next time:

    where you left it or at the top of screen glued to menubar?
  • Reply 616 of 1176
    panicxpanicx Posts: 37member
    didnt see this posted before:



    Although you can still add your Home or favorite folders to the

    horizontal FinderToolbar by dragging them onto it as in 10.2,

    the items are NOT springloaded.



    (Apple way of forcing us to use sidebar?)



    I really hope they fix that.
  • Reply 617 of 1176
    ok so 7b44 was my hero cuz finally, finally the thing where you'd switch users and iChat would log you out or crash was fixed, but now that bug seems to have returned in 7b49 where it logs you out when you switch users or go to the login screen, is there some prefrence of this im missing somewhere?
  • Reply 618 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by millhouse

    ok so 7b44 was my hero cuz finally, finally the thing where you'd switch users and iChat would log you out or crash was fixed, but now that bug seems to have returned in 7b49 where it logs you out when you switch users or go to the login screen, is there some prefrence of this im missing somewhere?



    Ahahah, 7B49 = seven before nine. Looks like this build is THAT much of a step back.



    I only joke because it made sense to me at such a late hour in the evening. =_=



    Are there any widget alignment problems present in this build? How refined and usable does it seem now?
  • Reply 619 of 1176
    Quote:

    Originally posted by panicX

    Although you can still add your Home or favorite folders to the

    horizontal FinderToolbar by dragging them onto it as in 10.2,

    the items are NOT springloaded.




    This is very, very bad.



    It had better be a bug.
  • Reply 620 of 1176
    frykefryke Posts: 217member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by panicX

    oke to clear the miscommunication: ... 1.) create a new folder on the desktop and open it, where does it open? ... 2.) can anybody else go to the menubar>Finder (next to Apple-menu)

    then choose 'preferences'. Drag that window to the bottom of your

    screen.

    Close it and tell me where it opens next time:

    where you left it or at the top of screen glued to menubar?




    Okay.



    1.) It opens on the top left corner. A _tad_ too much to the left. Guess this'll be fixed.



    2.) For me, the Finder Preferences open where I last left them. I can drag the window around, close it, reopen it and it opens where I've left it. Or do you mean to close it when it's half off-screen? (Which would be a stupid thing to do, I think...)
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