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k2kw said:Mike Wuerthele said:avon b7 said:
"No, there is no 5G on the iPhone 11 Pro family at all, and there shouldn't be this year. Standards are still shaking out, carriers are still getting their act together. What works this year is probably not going to be even close to a full array of what 5G will support in the future."
If we take an educated guess from the rumours, it is almost certain that Apple was aiming for a 5G modem this year but intel didn't deliver.
Releasing a 5G modem next year will not change the 'standards are still shaking out' claim. The relevant standards for current 5G modems were finalised at the end of 2017. Commercial deployment is now a reality and Apple probably wanted to be part of that reality.
Long before Apple ships anything with a 5G modem, Huawei alone will have shipped 2,000,000 5G base stations worldwide. Add in Ericsson and Nokia, plus Qualcomm and Samsung and it is clear that Apple is at both a marketing and technological disadvantage. 5G will roll out far faster than previous generations.
5G coverage will vastly improve through 2020. China is accelerating an already accelerated 5G roll out. Korea has massive plans. Europe too. The devil is in the details but Release 15 is finalised. The only changes to that will be stabilisation efforts. NSA is what current modems (with the exception of Huawei which claims SA support too) are using and that is finalised and real.
Apart from the brute speed angle, things like 4GLTE/5G (NSA/SA) network slicing will also bring big advantages to everyone. Apple is obviously going to find it harder to compete in even a 5G NSA world without a product and when it does have a 5G product, the standard will still be 'shaking out'. I think it matters today from a purchasing perspective and no doubt a fair amount of potential buyers will put purchases off to wait for it along with the rumoured body redesign. Users looking for a phone to take them through a three or four year cycle might be even more reluctant to upgrade now.
Couple that with the ratification of the latest modem spec about two weeks ago, and another expected in about March of 2020 right when Apple will need modems, and inclusion of a not-ready for prime time technology in the phone this year remains a bad idea regardless of what Joe Public may think that they want.
We're not opposed to 5G. It's just not ready for a good implementation, delivering what the mass market wants right now. In regards to that roll-out, I live in a dense suburb of Washington DC. I am about six miles away from the White House. I won't see 5G in this neighborhood for four or five years. DC proper won't have a "complete" rollout for two more years.
And, there will always, always be something to wait for next year about. That is the nature of technology. This is no different. At some point. companies need to produce a device and a consumer needs to jump on the purchase train.
Asia varies. South Korea looks pretty good, but isn't really widely adopting mmWave, cutting way, way back on delivered speed, but also cutting back on the density of transmitters that mmwave demands. Docomo in Japan has the widest rollout, but with the same issues as South Korea -- limited or no mmWave.China's rollout is a bit further along than the US one, but not as far as Switzerland or South Korea. Still focused on urban areas, and local to neighborhoods. They seem to be adopting mmWave for the most part.The US has about 260 million smartphone users, about 45 percent of them have an iPhone. Japan has about 72 million smartphone users, with about 56% having an iPhone. South Korea has 36 million or so, with 28.5 percent having an iPhone. That's about 117 million, 40 million, and 10 million respectively.America is a good analog to Apple's needs, as it is far and away the biggest market for the company right now. And, none of this addresses the technological state of the battery-slurping 5G Modem as they stand today.
SpamSandwich said:Mike Wuerthele said:SpamSandwich said:Knowing someone who had to fight to assert their well-earned patent rights, I don’t think it’s fair to call any person or company a “patent troll” until they’re proven otherwise. Until everything shakes out in court they are simply a party filing a lawsuit.
That’s false. They would be an NPE (Non-Practicing Entity). “Patent troll” is not a legal term. I thought we addressed this distinction previously.
Compare and contrast the two patent stories from today, the companies involved, and how we've presented the information. See if you can find any differences between the two companies.
cornchip said:In a hypothetical fantasyland where I’m upgrading my SE to an 11, and I’ve never heard of this app/service... do I still need it to upgrade?
owlboy said:This article is vague and confusing because it assumes you only use GA for a google account. Many people will be wondering how to move all the stuff _in_ Google Authenticator to a new phone.
popple said:"Apple has updated the page for the iPhone operating system with some new information. A notification for the update to iOS 13.1 in the small print explains it will be 'Available September 24, 2019.'" Anyone have a screenshot for this? I can't find anywhere on the page that references that iOS 13.1 let alone the date on which it will be available. There _is_ a footnote that says "Available September 24, 2019" but that's just indicating when the iPod touch (7th gen) will be getting iOS 13.
We have other sources as well.