That's enough on the personal attacks side. If the argument is trollish, it will tear itself apart with logic. No nose picking, penis measuring, or… whatever else it was required.
Just like you right ?
The post about penis sizes was so funny (not). Is this what you call research ?
Yes like me, and no I wasn't trying to be funny. Just pointing out that everything in nature comes in a multitude of sizes. There is no perfect size nor one size fits all.
TS, those sound like personal attacks by DaHarder to me.
Then you seriously need to check your 'hearing'/reading comprehension if pointing out that someone is TROLLING is considered a 'personal attack', as then you should have been reprimanded/banned years ago, as should some 90% of the hostile/bitter posters in this place who have absolutely no respect for the opinions of others. see: hfts.
So Please... Keep your own 'personal attacks' directed at those who are actually guilty rather than unjustly aiming your inane vitriol at those who are respectfully contributing to the conversation. Thanks
Anyway... Looking forward to all recognizing that the iPad Mini can also make 'calls', just in iOS' case they're FaceTime Calls.
The way this place has been the last few years I can't help but jump to the conclusion when seeing a post like the above (apologies to the poster if genuine) is using the "naive troll" persona.
Ah you've described Soli to a "T". A "naive troll " now!
Soli I kid of course. Amazing how some of us get tagged by other members.
Anyway... Looking forward to all recognizing that the iPad Mini can also make 'calls', just in iOS' case they're FaceTime Calls.
So can the iPad. So can my Mac Pro. It's a phone? I realize that hefting around a ghetto blaster that took twelve D batteries was hip in the '80s and early '90s, but a Mac Pro on one shoulder would take the cake. You'd wind up looking like this:
Never mind the UPS you'd have to strap to your fanny pack to keep the thing running.
"What about the screen?"
Oh, just hook it up to Google Glasses and project it onto those.
Better be priced at least $100 less than the mini if it wants any traction at all. And why no Retina level display? Where is the innovation? Oh yeah, those criticisms are reserved for Apple.
Face it, Apple has become THE target for the tech media. No amount of outrage or argument will change that. The charge is on to take Apple down, the knives are out, the FUD flows like wine. There's no explanation, no reason, no motive. It's just time for Apple to be eviscerated.
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I didn't quite understand sennen's comment so I didn't respond.
lol, DaHarder, Samsung didn't create anything, they made a smaller tablet at that time because that's all they could do to make a cost-effective product.
Face it, Apple has become THE target for the tech media. No amount of outrage or argument will change that. The charge is on to take Apple down, the knives are out, the FUD flows like wine. There's no explanation, no reason, no motive. It's just time for Apple to be eviscerated.
No, there is an explanation, a reason, a motive. The news media need narratives to pull in ratings -- or, in today's parlance, page views. It's either about building someone up or tearing them down. Straight news reporting is not clickbait.
At least for the tech blogs I follow, the real "disaster story" now seems to be Windows 8. It's a good narrative, too: the king of enterprise tries to copy Apple's success in the consumer space (particularly mobile) and falls flat. I've yet to see a glowing review of a Windows 8 laptop or tablet.
In the meantime, of course, Apple and Microsoft are still making boatloads of money...
I didn't quite understand sennen's comment so I didn't respond.
By "naive troll" I meant the kind of person who re-hashes the same tired, long-ago debunked arguments, but then claims to not know any better, and is apologetic when questioned/confronted about it.
By "naive troll" I meant the kind of person who re-hashes the same tired, long-ago debunked arguments, but then claims to not know any better, and is apologetic when questioned/confronted about it.
I got that part. What I don't get is how I was acting as such.
No, there is an explanation, a reason, a motive. The news media need narratives to pull in ratings -- or, in today's parlance, page views. It's either about building someone up or tearing them down. Straight news reporting is not clickbait.
At least for the tech blogs I follow, the real "disaster story" now seems to be Windows 8. It's a good narrative, too: the king of enterprise tries to copy Apple's success in the consumer space (particularly mobile) and falls flat. I've yet to see a glowing review of a Windows 8 laptop or tablet.
In the meantime, of course, Apple and Microsoft are still making boatloads of money...
Interestingly, I just saw a commercial for a Windows 8 phone today. It was clearly targeted at the Galaxy SIII - and even gave the name of the product. It struck me as odd that they'd go after Galaxy and ignore Apple. Probably:
1. They might also have commercials comparing their product to the iPhone and I missed them (I don't watch much TV)
or
2. They think it's easier to take customers away from Samsung than Apple.
Interestingly, I just saw a commercial for a Windows 8 phone today. It was clearly targeted at the Galaxy SIII - and even gave the name of the product. It struck me as odd that they'd go after Galaxy and ignore Apple. Probably:
1. They might also have commercials comparing their product to the iPhone and I missed them (I don't watch much TV)
or
2. They think it's easier to take customers away from Samsung than Apple.
You're probably right that it's (at least partly) reason 2, but in that case I think that's a marketing mistake. Tech savvy Android users complain that iOS is feature-poor in comparison to their mobile OS of choice. Just wait till they see WP8. Beautiful exterior (for many) but gimped functionality.
An imagined concept and a real functioning device are two different things. Does Jules Verne get credit for inventing the submarine because he wrote a science fiction novel mentioning the concept? Imagining a product takes a vision, no doubt but no where near the vision of bringing that concept into reality that people line up to buy. Bringing that vision into reality is a combination of technology, design, timing and a slew of other factors that have to converge all at once. No, Samsung would not be making tablets if it were not for the iPad. Does this mean Apple invented the tablet? No, everyone knows that Windows tablets have been around for decades. And yet no one bought them, until the iPad. Everything is compared to the iPad for a reason, they are the standard bearer. Other tablets are smaller, cheaper, but are still modeled after the iPad running a similar OS. As ultra books copy the originally criticized MacBook Air, all tablets in their current form are copying the iPad. Some are a smaller, some have a stylus, but they are still modeled after the iPad. They weren't first, but they redefined the category.
I suspect that Sammy can deliver this device... At some price point and at some time..
I also suspect that Apple will more than match this device's capability before, or soon after release...
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That's enough on the personal attacks side. If the argument is trollish, it will tear itself apart with logic. No nose picking, penis measuring, or… whatever else it was required.
Yes like me, and no I wasn't trying to be funny. Just pointing out that everything in nature comes in a multitude of sizes. There is no perfect size nor one size fits all.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
TS, those sound like personal attacks by DaHarder to me.
Then you seriously need to check your 'hearing'/reading comprehension if pointing out that someone is TROLLING is considered a 'personal attack', as then you should have been reprimanded/banned years ago, as should some 90% of the hostile/bitter posters in this place who have absolutely no respect for the opinions of others. see: hfts.
So Please... Keep your own 'personal attacks' directed at those who are actually guilty rather than unjustly aiming your inane vitriol at those who are respectfully contributing to the conversation. Thanks
Anyway... Looking forward to all recognizing that the iPad Mini can also make 'calls', just in iOS' case they're FaceTime Calls.
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Originally Posted by sennen
The way this place has been the last few years I can't help but jump to the conclusion when seeing a post like the above (apologies to the poster if genuine) is using the "naive troll" persona.
Ah you've described Soli to a "T". A "naive troll " now!
Soli I kid of course. Amazing how some of us get tagged by other members.
Originally Posted by DaHarder
Anyway... Looking forward to all recognizing that the iPad Mini can also make 'calls', just in iOS' case they're FaceTime Calls.
So can the iPad. So can my Mac Pro. It's a phone? I realize that hefting around a ghetto blaster that took twelve D batteries was hip in the '80s and early '90s, but a Mac Pro on one shoulder would take the cake. You'd wind up looking like this:
Never mind the UPS you'd have to strap to your fanny pack to keep the thing running.
"What about the screen?"
Oh, just hook it up to Google Glasses and project it onto those.
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Originally Posted by currentinterest
Better be priced at least $100 less than the mini if it wants any traction at all. And why no Retina level display? Where is the innovation? Oh yeah, those criticisms are reserved for Apple.
Face it, Apple has become THE target for the tech media. No amount of outrage or argument will change that. The charge is on to take Apple down, the knives are out, the FUD flows like wine. There's no explanation, no reason, no motive. It's just time for Apple to be eviscerated.
I didn't quite understand sennen's comment so I didn't respond.
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Originally Posted by Bondm16
Trolling? Im sorry but I dont think I have.
Yes, you are trolling, big time. And you won't last very long if you keep it up.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/152839/rules-of-the-troll-wip
You make all the classic straw man arguments, you fit the description perfectly.
lol, DaHarder, Samsung didn't create anything, they made a smaller tablet at that time because that's all they could do to make a cost-effective product.
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Originally Posted by lkrupp
Face it, Apple has become THE target for the tech media. No amount of outrage or argument will change that. The charge is on to take Apple down, the knives are out, the FUD flows like wine. There's no explanation, no reason, no motive. It's just time for Apple to be eviscerated.
No, there is an explanation, a reason, a motive. The news media need narratives to pull in ratings -- or, in today's parlance, page views. It's either about building someone up or tearing them down. Straight news reporting is not clickbait.
At least for the tech blogs I follow, the real "disaster story" now seems to be Windows 8. It's a good narrative, too: the king of enterprise tries to copy Apple's success in the consumer space (particularly mobile) and falls flat. I've yet to see a glowing review of a Windows 8 laptop or tablet.
In the meantime, of course, Apple and Microsoft are still making boatloads of money...
Edited for grammar.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
I didn't quite understand sennen's comment so I didn't respond.
By "naive troll" I meant the kind of person who re-hashes the same tired, long-ago debunked arguments, but then claims to not know any better, and is apologetic when questioned/confronted about it.
I got that part. What I don't get is how I was acting as such.
Interestingly, I just saw a commercial for a Windows 8 phone today. It was clearly targeted at the Galaxy SIII - and even gave the name of the product. It struck me as odd that they'd go after Galaxy and ignore Apple. Probably:
1. They might also have commercials comparing their product to the iPhone and I missed them (I don't watch much TV)
or
2. They think it's easier to take customers away from Samsung than Apple.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Interestingly, I just saw a commercial for a Windows 8 phone today. It was clearly targeted at the Galaxy SIII - and even gave the name of the product. It struck me as odd that they'd go after Galaxy and ignore Apple. Probably:
1. They might also have commercials comparing their product to the iPhone and I missed them (I don't watch much TV)
or
2. They think it's easier to take customers away from Samsung than Apple.
You're probably right that it's (at least partly) reason 2, but in that case I think that's a marketing mistake. Tech savvy Android users complain that iOS is feature-poor in comparison to their mobile OS of choice. Just wait till they see WP8. Beautiful exterior (for many) but gimped functionality.
Quote:
Originally Posted by iSteelers
An imagined concept and a real functioning device are two different things. Does Jules Verne get credit for inventing the submarine because he wrote a science fiction novel mentioning the concept? Imagining a product takes a vision, no doubt but no where near the vision of bringing that concept into reality that people line up to buy. Bringing that vision into reality is a combination of technology, design, timing and a slew of other factors that have to converge all at once. No, Samsung would not be making tablets if it were not for the iPad. Does this mean Apple invented the tablet? No, everyone knows that Windows tablets have been around for decades. And yet no one bought them, until the iPad. Everything is compared to the iPad for a reason, they are the standard bearer. Other tablets are smaller, cheaper, but are still modeled after the iPad running a similar OS. As ultra books copy the originally criticized MacBook Air, all tablets in their current form are copying the iPad. Some are a smaller, some have a stylus, but they are still modeled after the iPad. They weren't first, but they redefined the category.
I suspect that Sammy can deliver this device... At some price point and at some time..
I also suspect that Apple will more than match this device's capability before, or soon after release...
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
I got that part. What I don't get is how I was acting as such.
Gatorguy's comment? I assume he was just being cheeky. (I was referring to Mr/Mrs/Ms. Bond originally)
Ahh! I read "when seeing a post like the above" to literally mean my post which you quoted above.
This tablet can do true multitasking: side by side apps running at the same time.
You can not do that in any of the the iOS software.
Even Microsoft's Windows 8 cant properly run two SAME SIZE windows next to each other like this Samsung can.
Not only that, you can dynamically adjust the screen sizes for each apps.
If the Galaxy Note II is any indication, this should also run up to 16 apps AT ONE TIME.
That is innovation.