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  • Apple iPhone chip maker TSMC predicting strong demand for rest of 2019

    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    jcs2305 said:
    ksec said:
    And it has very little to do with Apple.

    5G Modem and SoC as well as AMD's GPU and CPU. 
    TSMC is believed to have already commenced mass production for the Apple-designed "A13" chip, which will be at the heart of the 2019 iPhone refresh due this September.

    I think this ^ is a bit more than a little impact.  Yes they have other customers, but they aren't making a couple of hundred A13 chips either.

    Apple has the bulk of the early production 7nm+ /  euv process for the A13.

    https://www.techspot.com/news/80237-tsmc-7nm-production-improves-performance-10.html


    The linked article doesn't seem to even mention Apple. Or is my eyesight failing?

     
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-apple-a13-2019-iphone-processor,39315.html

    This is from the article on May 10th.

    "According to Bloomberg sources, TSMC began test production of the A13 in April, and volume production is expected to begin early this month. The EUV lithography is the successor to the company’s deep ultraviolet (DUV) process. It looks like TSMC is quite confident in its new process, since it’s willing to test the production of chips for a month before jumping into volume production. Furthermore, TSMC was not expected to begin mass production of 7nm EUV chips until next month."

    Are you afraid that Huawei won't be first?

    Hence why I stated "the bulk of the early production"

    Considering that Huawei isn't expected to deliver the Kirin 985 in a product until the end of the year, it looks like Apple will have the bulk of early production, so that it can meet its September deliveries for the new iPhone.

    Also, considering the number of A13's that Apple will need this production year, something on the order of 120 to 130 million A13's will be produced.
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    jcs2305 said:
    ksec said:
    And it has very little to do with Apple.

    5G Modem and SoC as well as AMD's GPU and CPU. 
    TSMC is believed to have already commenced mass production for the Apple-designed "A13" chip, which will be at the heart of the 2019 iPhone refresh due this September.

    I think this ^ is a bit more than a little impact.  Yes they have other customers, but they aren't making a couple of hundred A13 chips either.

    Apple has the bulk of the early production 7nm+ /  euv process for the A13.

    https://www.techspot.com/news/80237-tsmc-7nm-production-improves-performance-10.html


    The linked article doesn't seem to even mention Apple. Or is my eyesight failing?

     
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-apple-a13-2019-iphone-processor,39315.html

    This is from the article on May 10th.

    "According to Bloomberg sources, TSMC began test production of the A13 in April, and volume production is expected to begin early this month. The EUV lithography is the successor to the company’s deep ultraviolet (DUV) process. It looks like TSMC is quite confident in its new process, since it’s willing to test the production of chips for a month before jumping into volume production. Furthermore, TSMC was not expected to begin mass production of 7nm EUV chips until next month."

    Are you afraid that Huawei won't be first?

    Hence why I stated "the bulk of the early production"

    Considering that Huawei isn't expected to deliver the Kirin 985 in a product until the end of the year, it looks like Apple will have the bulk of early production, so that it can meet its September deliveries for the new iPhone.

    Also, considering the number of A13's that Apple will need this production year, something on the order of 120 to 130 million A13's will be produced.
    Did you make up the 'bulk of early production' then? Nothing you have linked to says that.

    Just like last year, TSMC is producing SoCs for both companies in parallel.

    Delivery of a product is irrelevant here. Production capacity was contracted last year and will be met unless Huawei says otherwise at a later date. Something which has never been claimed as yet.

    At present I can guarantee you that Apple doesn't have 120 million A13s in storage.

    https://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2019/04/tsmc-on-schedule-to-kick-start-production-of-apples-new-a13-7nm-euv-processor-dubbed-the-n7-pro-in-q2.html
    The production year is for the 2019 iPhone models, hence the 120 million units that Apple will have produced through the next year. This isn't that hard to figure out, and certainly more 7nm+ processors produced for Apple than what Huawei will use for its various product lines for the next year.
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  • Apple iPhone chip maker TSMC predicting strong demand for rest of 2019

    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    jcs2305 said:
    ksec said:
    And it has very little to do with Apple.

    5G Modem and SoC as well as AMD's GPU and CPU. 
    TSMC is believed to have already commenced mass production for the Apple-designed "A13" chip, which will be at the heart of the 2019 iPhone refresh due this September.

    I think this ^ is a bit more than a little impact.  Yes they have other customers, but they aren't making a couple of hundred A13 chips either.

    Apple has the bulk of the early production 7nm+ /  euv process for the A13.

    https://www.techspot.com/news/80237-tsmc-7nm-production-improves-performance-10.html


    The linked article doesn't seem to even mention Apple. Or is my eyesight failing?

     
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-apple-a13-2019-iphone-processor,39315.html

    This is from the article on May 10th.

    "According to Bloomberg sources, TSMC began test production of the A13 in April, and volume production is expected to begin early this month. The EUV lithography is the successor to the company’s deep ultraviolet (DUV) process. It looks like TSMC is quite confident in its new process, since it’s willing to test the production of chips for a month before jumping into volume production. Furthermore, TSMC was not expected to begin mass production of 7nm EUV chips until next month."

    Are you afraid that Huawei won't be first?

    Hence why I stated "the bulk of the early production"

    Considering that Huawei isn't expected to deliver the Kirin 985 in a product until the end of the year, it looks like Apple will have the bulk of early production, so that it can meet its September deliveries for the new iPhone.

    Also, considering the number of A13's that Apple will need this production year, something on the order of 120 to 130 million A13's will be produced.
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  • Apple iPhone chip maker TSMC predicting strong demand for rest of 2019

    jcs2305 said:
    ksec said:
    And it has very little to do with Apple.

    5G Modem and SoC as well as AMD's GPU and CPU. 
    TSMC is believed to have already commenced mass production for the Apple-designed "A13" chip, which will be at the heart of the 2019 iPhone refresh due this September.

    I think this ^ is a bit more than a little impact.  Yes they have other customers, but they aren't making a couple of hundred A13 chips either.

    Apple has the bulk of the early production 7nm+ /  euv process for the A13.

    https://www.techspot.com/news/80237-tsmc-7nm-production-improves-performance-10.html


    watto_cobra
  • YouTuber reveals 'iPhone 11' models, claims few changes

    crowley said:

    crowley said:
    crowley said:
    tmay said:
    crowley said:
    tmay said:
    crowley said:
    iOS_Guy80 said:
    crowley said:
    iOS_Guy80 said:
    crowley said:
    It used to be that Apple made things that looked better from the back than their competitors looked from the front.  I really hope they've got something special in the works for 2020, because that bump is grotesque.
    Really. When you use your phone what side do you look at? What side matters the most? When was the last time you looked at the back of your phone? Does it really matter why it looks like. What matters is that IT JUST WORKS.
    WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING?

    It's ok that aesthetics don't matter to you.  Other people think differently.  I like for things to look nice as well as work, especially when I'm paying as much as an iPhone costs.
    That new bump with the three lenses does look nice and aesthetically pleasing. We agree to disagree.
    Interesting that you make the point since you think it doesn't matter what it looks like, but fair enough.  I think you're in a tiny minority.
    So, do you want the improved imaging and video, not to mention A/R, or not?
    Not sure what relevance that has, but they're not features I'm particularly interested in.  Moreover, those features aren't contingent on a square camera bump in the corner.

    So, where should that camera bump go, and what should it look like?

    Given that Apple has always placed its camera(s) in that corner, I'm not sure why moving it makes any sense. 

    This is your opportunity to demonstrate your design skills; where should it go, and why?
    Tbh, if they made the phone thicker and got rid of the bump, that's 90% of my issue dealt with, the feel of it is more irritating than the look. Though in terms of placement, centralising it would remove the asymmetry to good effect, and a cleaner orientation, in a proper square, a line, or a cross formation rather than the rather chaotic looking offset of the three lenses and flash would probably work.
    Do you likewise complain that the ports on the back of an iMac aren’t centered or symmetrically balances to either side? Why not?


    1. I wouldn't consider buying an iMac, I'm a MacBook guy, so I don't have much interest in it.
    2. Even if I did, those ports don't bother me, they're a very small part of the back on the iMac, and their location has a function that would be impeded by centralisation.
    3. Even if I did have interest and they did bother me, I don't see the back of my monitor screen very often, I see the back of my iPhone all the time.
    “or symmetrically balances to either side”

    The ports on the back of the iMac could be placed on either side, symmetrically, but they arent. They’re on one side only. No one complains about this. It’s the same reason why the pearl clutching here is silly nonsense. 
    The location of the iPhone camera is not functionally useful, and judging by the negative comments here and elsewhere I've seen is aesthetically disfavoured by a sizeable proportion, in a product where aesthetics matter to a sizeable proportion.
    You're good.

    Your technical review of the iPhone 11 camera array is the best ever, and especialy brilliant, given that it hasn't actually been announced or delivered!
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  • YouTuber reveals 'iPhone 11' models, claims few changes

    avon b7 said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    gatorguy said:
    They are pushed to the side of the phone to make room for the battery in the center and right-side.
    They could still center the camera module with Apple's L-shaped battery because the part of the battery that covers the center of the phone is in the bottom portion of the casing. More than that, Apple is famous for their ability to design the internals of their devices.  I have no doubt Apple could place that camera module wherever they want on that phone and make it work. 

    Personally, I think Apple would keep the module in the upper left corner because of tradition.  It's always been in the upper left corner.  I hope these renders and mockups are wrong, because that off center squircle is disconcerting and just plain ugly.
    I presume the wireless charging coil currently in the dead center could be an issue with centering the new cameras.
    The Huawei Mate 20 includes wireless charging coils and the bump is still centered. 

    The explanation I've seen posted elsewhere for being off-center is both the iPhone and Pixel phones this year are mid-design cycle phones that would require some hefty re-engineering to change the position of the cameras from where they are now. With new shells/displays slated for next year it wouldn't make sense to redesign now.

    Next year I'd wager both will be changing at least the position of the square bump if not the need for one to begin with. 
    Apple and Google moving the camera bump to the middle accomplishes what exactly? Plenty of phones over the last decade have had camera bumps in the center, yet Apple has never had that.

    Why would you see the need to change it?
    The question is 'why not?'.

    If the result is ugly, change it. That's a very good reason.

    Now, if, as Gatorguy has suggested, placing it in the centre was too much of an engineering re-design for a look that is about to suffer a major reworking (possibly on the 2020 upgrade), then keeping it in the upper left would make a little more sense even if the result is ugly.

    It also fits well with Apple's sloth like progess when it comes to adding stand out premium features.

    Tri-camera will be a full 18 months behind the competition. As will be a Night Mode feature and higher zoom factors and camera versatility. For charging, many, many years behind. And rumours point to quad cameras coming to the fore.

    As for the square bump taking inspiration from Huawei, why not? We will never know. There are only so many designs anyway so it would have appeared eventually, just like a circular bump will surely appear too. This is like AirPods. There is nothing original in the design. Snipping off the wires from standard earbuds didn't break new ground and using the long stems has been a well trodden path for the majority of hands free earpieces for many years.

    Square, lineal or circular bumps, aren't news. Looks are and these look awful.

    Having said all that, if things had appeared on an iPhone first and competitors followed, many here would be howling at the 'blatant rip offs' and if the top left sqaure placement had been used by anyone before Apple there would have been howls over how ugly it was, too.

    As things stand, the Pixel 4 actually doesn't look so 'off' because there is no logo near it to draw you to it. 

    The logo is understated and well out of the way.

    It's all moot though until the phones go official. Just pray there are no furry dice hanging off them!
    I don’t think the camera hump in the center looks any better or worse. This notion that Huawei’s implementation is universally accepted as better looking is BS. Of course I’m not surprised you would think so as you’re a Huawei shill.
    Easily solved. Show both setups to ten people you know and note their preferences. The centred option will win out. We are 'programmed' for symmetry to appeal to us. 
    Easier.

    Wait until it arrives and then see how good the imaging, video, and A/R capabilities are, and then see what the response to the bump is.

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