Speaking of the case, i have seen 4 drop test and the iphone 5 seems to be one tough little thing. The only case i have seen the glass broke the guy had to throw the phone on a tile floor.
Actually, Apple does it to themselves. They are their own worse enemy. We all saw the "hoo-haw" - precision engineering, manufacturing/assembling millions of Iphone, in high-tech fasion / praising their genius. They keep on setting the bar higher and higher - they proclaim, Apple Perfection, and this is never going to happe. SkyNet Anyone
Any IT person with half a brain knows, never buy the first batch of any type of hardware or software, there will always be problems. For the record, I'll pick up an Iphone undecided if it with be the 32GB or 64 GB model, in about a month after all this craziness settles down.
... For aluminum, OTOH, you're digging aluminum out of the ground as bauxite (a complicated aluminum oxide compound). You have to chemically break those aluminum/oxygen bonds - and breaking bonds takes a lot more energy than simply melting something.
I have the same problem on my 32GB Black/Slate model. Not a huge issue but when you're paying $700 for a device you expect it to be new out of the box and not look used. The back plate on mine was pretty dirty as well...
First of all any blackened aluminum wether it be anodized or painted is gonna show the scuff marks way more than the iPhone 4s or previous generation. Let me see a video of it being unpacked from a shrink wrapped box and then being inspected for scuff marks then I will believe it. Other wise its user error.
I have this problem as well. I noticed it as soon as I took the plastic off the phone so unless the user error was putting my hands on the device for the first time, it's a problem at the factory (or caused by the box during shipping).
Antenna-gate Maps-gate Scuff-gate Steve never would have let this happen-gate Like a fool I order my iPhone5 on the first day-gate My Cheap Plastic Android Sucks-gate Hate-gate
Wait, what? That sounds backward. Maps will not only be "fixed", they'll surpass Google's efforts tenfold. This is damage. But I don't know HOW, since anodized aluminum's what my Mac Pro's of, and it's like the day out of the box.
Well, duh!! Try walking around for a few days with your Mac Pro in your pocket with a bunch of keys, and then tell us if "it's like the day out of the box."
Because Apple is under a microscope, because Apple users tend to be irrational OCD freaks. Every other product released by every other manufacturer, including Tiffany, Rolex, BMW, Ford, Chevy, Walmart, et al have similar flaws and blemishes. There is no such thing as a perfect product. Things happen and things get replaced or fixed. But because it's Apple it becomes a "gate".
Your whining lament proves the point perfectly.
It seems like many Apple users are the most OCD in the world. I remember with the new iPad someone retuned their device 13 times! because of alleged display issues. And if you didn't have any issues you just weren't looking hard enough.
I've seen reports of people getting perfect devices and some with minor scuffs. Of course those with issues are more likely to post them on the www, whereas those who don't arent posting that their phone is fine, so it ends up looking worse than it is. I'm not entirely surprised as it sounds like this is a new and very complicated manufacturing process. But I'm sure it's something that can be fixed. And if you have one with a nick get it replaced.
Well, duh!! Try walking around for a few days with your Mac Pro in your pocket with a bunch of keys, and then tell us if "it's like the day out of the box."
Why in the world would you put your phone with your keys?! I guess I just don't get that.
But no, I'm saying it has been hit, been bumped, been scraped with metal, even, and nothing has happened to the case like that.
Yes, recycled aluminum uses only a tiny fraction as much energy as virgin aluminum. When recycling aluminum, the aluminum-oxide bonds have already been broken, so you're back to a simple physical process (largely).
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
Does the production of glass require the use of electrical energy?
The heat of fusion of silicon is about 5x that of aluminum, how does it take more electricity to make aluminum than glass?
The product of glass does. I never said it doesn't. I merely said it uses less than the aluminum process. I never said it didn't use energy now did I.
When you use slave labor to build your products, you have bad QC, go figure, you get what you pay for...
Actually, Apple does it to themselves. They are their own worse enemy. We all saw the "hoo-haw" - precision engineering, manufacturing/assembling millions of Iphone, in high-tech fasion / praising their genius. They keep on setting the bar higher and higher - they proclaim, Apple Perfection, and this is never going to happe. SkyNet Anyone
Any IT person with half a brain knows, never buy the first batch of any type of hardware or software, there will always be problems. For the record, I'll pick up an Iphone undecided if it with be the 32GB or 64 GB model, in about a month after all this craziness settles down.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
... For aluminum, OTOH, you're digging aluminum out of the ground as bauxite (a complicated aluminum oxide compound). You have to chemically break those aluminum/oxygen bonds - and breaking bonds takes a lot more energy than simply melting something.
What if it's recycled aluminum?
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When you use slave labor to build your products, you have bad QC, go figure, you get what you pay for...
What a stupid thing to say, unless you don't mind being a liar.
There is no slave labor, and Foxconn employees get paid handsomely. You should take your lies elsewhere.
I have the same problem on my 32GB Black/Slate model. Not a huge issue but when you're paying $700 for a device you expect it to be new out of the box and not look used. The back plate on mine was pretty dirty as well...
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Originally Posted by tylerk36
First of all any blackened aluminum wether it be anodized or painted is gonna show the scuff marks way more than the iPhone 4s or previous generation. Let me see a video of it being unpacked from a shrink wrapped box and then being inspected for scuff marks then I will believe it. Other wise its user error.
I have this problem as well. I noticed it as soon as I took the plastic off the phone so unless the user error was putting my hands on the device for the first time, it's a problem at the factory (or caused by the box during shipping).
Maps-gate
Scuff-gate
Steve never would have let this happen-gate
Like a fool I order my iPhone5 on the first day-gate
My Cheap Plastic Android Sucks-gate
Hate-gate
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
Does the production of glass require the use of electrical energy?
The heat of fusion of silicon is about 5x that of aluminum, how does it take more electricity to make aluminum than glass?
Aluminum is basically frozen electricity—about 20 KWh/kg, IIRC.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Yep. Knew it. Mapgate, Scuffgate, Tubegate, Sizegate, Portgate, Thingate. Apple is doomedgate.
Those that hate, love the gate.
Originally Posted by GTR
Those that hate, love the gate.
Apple should make their products instantly stop working upon touching 1cc of a liquid or entering a situation where the humidity is above 10%.
No one can complain about it because watergate is taken.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Wait, what? That sounds backward. Maps will not only be "fixed", they'll surpass Google's efforts tenfold. This is damage. But I don't know HOW, since anodized aluminum's what my Mac Pro's of, and it's like the day out of the box.
Well, duh!! Try walking around for a few days with your Mac Pro in your pocket with a bunch of keys, and then tell us if "it's like the day out of the box."
It seems like many Apple users are the most OCD in the world. I remember with the new iPad someone retuned their device 13 times! because of alleged display issues. And if you didn't have any issues you just weren't looking hard enough.
I've seen reports of people getting perfect devices and some with minor scuffs. Of course those with issues are more likely to post them on the www, whereas those who don't arent posting that their phone is fine, so it ends up looking worse than it is. I'm not entirely surprised as it sounds like this is a new and very complicated manufacturing process. But I'm sure it's something that can be fixed. And if you have one with a nick get it replaced.
Originally Posted by AppleGreen
Well, duh!! Try walking around for a few days with your Mac Pro in your pocket with a bunch of keys, and then tell us if "it's like the day out of the box."
Why in the world would you put your phone with your keys?! I guess I just don't get that.
But no, I'm saying it has been hit, been bumped, been scraped with metal, even, and nothing has happened to the case like that.
Good thing they don't make gates or we'd have gategate
Yes, recycled aluminum uses only a tiny fraction as much energy as virgin aluminum. When recycling aluminum, the aluminum-oxide bonds have already been broken, so you're back to a simple physical process (largely).